Thursday, December 18, 2014

[gita-talk] Isolation since becoming engaged in Bhajan

 


As I have become more involved in worship of God,  I find that my family gets less and less invitations from friends etc.   I want to clarify that this is not something that is very bothersome to me personally, and I see it as more time and opportunity for bhajan.   But,  the rest of the family is feeling isolation from the friends, get-together,   fun events,  holiday celebrations etc.   The family members do need some form of recreation,   how do I help make my family member's lives more satisfying?  

Please help !  

Anaamika 

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Worshiping God through Bhajans and other methods are definitely good. Helping family members live more satisfying by visiting friends and relatives is also a form of worship. You have now got a great opportunity to serve God by practicing equanimity (seeing everything as equal and not having likes and dislikes. This is a step forward towards freedom from Sansara while being in the Sansara world. This is what the Jeevanmukta saints do to reach salvation. So, you can do the same by giving company to your family members when they visit friends and relatives and while doing so think about God and do bhajana mentaly in your mind. God will accept that way of living as your worship. Thank you for asking this question for me to think about this. I now know that I should also practice myself the advice I am giving you as a form of worship and for attaining equanimity without pursuing any like and dislike of my own by denying greater satisfaction that my family members may need as far as I can. Basudeb Sen

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OM Vaasudevaaya NamaH,
BhagavadGita suggests....
YuktaAhara Vihaarasya YuktaChestasya Karmasu |
YuktaSwapnAvabodhasya YogoBhavatiDukhaHa   || (6/17)

niteesh kd
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dear Sadaks,
Divert your family members in listening & seeing videos of holy scripts. Then they will not only understand you but also support you.
B.Sathyanarayan- Chennai.

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Keshav Rao
I have been following a similar line of thought over the last few years,  yet feel that I have some duty towards the family, and seeing them happy and at peace.   
thank you, 
Anaamika

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Become established in God or Self.  Do not worry about the thoughts in the mind (such as concern for family's entertainment etc)  and the world (isolation etc).   This is all inevitable sooner or later,  as it is the nature of the world to move away from you (self)   Family will take care of itself and adjust to its new situation.   Renounce, become detached from both (mind and world).   Be at Peace.  Be Happy ! All is well.    

Keshav Rao

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J b goradia
Yes,  my basic needs pertaining to God and worship are satisfactory,  though I long for the yearning that Mirabai had and the intimate relationship she had with God
Thank you,  
Anaamika 

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Your definition of God and its worship - does it satisfy your basic needs?
j b goradia

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For Vyas N B 
I try to do all my daily house work as worship of God.  It is possible that my ways may be restrictive to all others around me,  since I do not watch much TV,  or movies, or eating out at restaurants.  Also I do have some dietary restrictions limiting what I can eat outside.  I spending a reasonable amount of time in reading Bhagawad Gita Sadhak Sanjeevani and other lectures and discourses, and little time in news, news papers, novels etc.   I prefer solitude and do not like to talk too much.  All in all,  there is little to talk with others about anything else besides spiritual matters.   So far the family and friends are not inclined towards spirituality,  Gita or God.   I would like to see them all happy.     

Thank you for your reply 
Anaamika  
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Hari Om

Your message does not suggest precise reasons of the isolation of your family and their getting lesser invitations. How your doing bhajan has any co-relationship with rest of your family not getting mixed with the friends, fun events etc ? Is your method of getting " more involved in worship of a God" , so restrictive to all others that they can not do holiday celebrations, fun events etc ? In what manner you are "more involved in worship of God " ? What causes dissatisfaction to them ? Unless you elucidate further, no useful answer can emanate.

Jai Shree Krishna

Vyas N B 

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Sadhak

this message is not clear to me.   Anaamika

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आप प्रत्यक्षमें तो more involved से पहलेकी स्थितिमें लौट आयें (जिस स्थितिमें परिवारके अन्य सदस्योंको मित्रों आदिसे invitations प्राप्त हो रहे थे और वे सनुष्ट रहते थे कि खूब get-together, fun events, holiday celebrations आदिका आनंद ले रहे हैं) किन्तु अप्रत्यक्षमें (बाहरी व्यक्ति यही समझें कि आप अब उतने भजनमें नहीं हैं अर्थात less involved हैं) अपने भजन और बढ़ा दें तो काम बन जायगा। 
परिवारके सदस्योंको get-together, fun events, holiday celebrations आदि करानेकी चिंता सहित स्वयंका भजन चल पाता है, जानकर आश्चर्य हुआ। हमारा भजन तो कैसी भी चिंता लगते ही अटक जाता है। क्या करें?  
सविनय,
साधक  

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Hari Om
 
Dear Sadhak Notesav,
as per your saying :
 
If you are interested in "thinking divine" then you can write to moderator, and I will
share with you "the how" or the method. This method is a copyright under my name and I have 
published a paper in Hindi. If you need a copy of this Hindi-paper then I will send it to you.
 
Request you to please share the paper / method, by which we can only keep on thinking the name of the Lord.
Day to day activities take our mind away from the Divine name. This would really be helpful to all of us and you would also get everybodys good blessings.
 
Thank you.
 
Amit
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राम राम श्री गीता-वार्ता समन्वयक महोदय! 
कृपया श्री Notesav जी प्रणीत ''the How'' पेपरका हिंदी संस्करण मुझे मेल कीजिये। 
बहुत उत्सुकता जाग रही है। 
सधन्यवाद,
सविनय,
साधक 

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Dear Sadak Member,

Getting into bhajans are very good things which should not preclude you from your social activities.
It may be that you may be spending too much time in bhajans and less time for other activities.
Please take a look at your daily calender and make some changes if you desire.

Or, take your bhajans into your thinking and this way, in one, you will be able to do
your bhajans all the time (and no one will know about it), two, all your bhajans will reach
divine, and three, you will have lot more time for your social activities. If you are interested in
"thinking divine" then you can write to moderator, and I will
share with you "the how" or the method. This method is a copyright under my name and I have 
published a paper in Hindi. If you need a copy of this Hindi-paper then I will send it to you.

Good Luck!

Notesav



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