Saturday, June 22, 2013

[gita-talk] Re: Share your BHAAVAS from BHAGAVAD GITAJI

 

Shree hari Ram Ram

You may Share your BHAAVAS from BHAGAVAD GITAJI - PLEASE BE CONCISE.

Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

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Hari Om

Indeed, bhavas of Gita are infinite. Coming to BG 9:29- In the eyes of God ( DRISHTI ) , none exists except He, Himself. When no other exists, where is the Q of any like ( Raag/ priyata) or dislike ( Dvesha) ? Jeeva only gets bound by likes and dislikes, and gets emancipated upon renunciation of likes and dislikes. God always remains equanimous. No varna, ashram, caste, karma, sect , ability has any impact on God. Vishamata ( inequality) is resorted to by Jeeva and not by God.

But those who do Bhajan of Bhagwaan with devotion and love, there God is SPECIFICALLY AND PARTICULARLY present ( active/ manifest/ visible) . JUST AS: Water exists every where under the earth, but is specifically manifest in a well ( tube well/ water well) !!! Actually, in Bhaktas of Bhagwaan, the Daivy Sampadas ( divine traits) as described in BG 16:1 to 16:4 manifest effortlessly, automatically and when those divine traits get visible in your attitude and karma, God keeps shining in you. Hence this verse....!

As far as 9:4/5 of Gita are concerned, it confuses a student of Gita as to how God is there in everybody and God is not there in anybody ! The correct answer to this is: When only God exists and nothing else exists, then where is question of God being in everybody ( when no other exists) and how God is not present in everybody ( when only God exists and no other)

Jai Shree Krishna

Vyas N B
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The point has to be seen and not merely understood.
The existence is validated by your being conscious of it. Can one see this?
You and the world is bound as a singular process, enclosed process, the complete, self-sustained process-including what you dislike and like, fear and cherish. Mind comes under the illusion as if something does not belong to it and is to be thrown out.
To touch the Original you have to take one step- ‘to quieten the clamouring mind which says, ‘why this is so’, ‘why this is not so’. The quietening has to happen without the support of any idea, explanation.
Y V Chawla

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My eldest brother once many years ago, when I have young man in twenties, asked
me to select just one verse of Bhagved Gita which appeals me the most! My
selection then was:

SARVDHARMAN PARITEJ MAAMEKAM SHARAM VERJ,
AHAMTWA SARV PABHUH, MOKHSHISHAMI MASUCHA!

Currently now, after understanding Vasudevam Servam to some extent and also on
the basis Gyatri's five covers Nirakar Bhram wears, the best verse for me
remains the same but, the meaning of MAAM changed from physical shape or idol or
photo of Lord Krishana to the TRUE SELF OF MY OWN SELF that is WHAT I CALL AS I,
which is even beyond Anandmaya Kosh. The other four Koshas of MY OWN TRUE SELF
wears are Annamaya, Pranmaya,Mannomaya & gyanamaya koshas. Thus, when I get
wholly devoted to my TRUE SELF OF MY OWN SELF WHAT I CALL AS I, I go to supreme
reality of SELF which is beyond all the mentioned five Koshas, particularly
beyond Manamaya Kosha which actusally is responsible for rebirths of SELF due to
both PAPAS & even PUNIYAS!

Jai Aduwyt Bhava & Vasudevam Sarvam

Kuldeep K. Kaul

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Dear Sadhakas,

Here i am sharing a beautiful Bhava from ninth adhyaya of Gita ji, which came to
my mind. (As rightly said by respected Swami ji that Gita ji is the infinite sea
of divine bhavas and messages).

In the beginning of 9th chapter Bhagwan says (verse 4 and 5):

maya tatamidam sarvam jadavyakt murtina,
matsthani sarvabhutani, na chaham teshu avasthitah.
na cha matsthani bhutani, pashya me yogamaishvaram,
butabhranna cah bhutastho, mamaatma bhtbhavanah.

Meaning: although this whole creation is within me and i am pervading through
everything in this creation, but see the might of my "yogaishwarya", that
despite being so i am neither in them and they are also not within me. (This is
a little difficult to comprehend, and a beautiful commentary is given by Swami
ji on this.)

and towards the end of the same chapter in the verse 29 Bhagwan says that:

samoaham srvabhuteshu na me dveshyoasti na priyah,
ye bhajanti tu maam bhaktya, mayi te teshu chapyaham.

Meaning: and those who constantly remember me with love and devotion, they are
always within me and i am also directly manifest in them.

Bhava: if we combine the direct meaning of these verses in the beginning of
adhayaya and the concluding verse towards the end of adhyaya, a beautiful bhava
appears:

"Oh Arjun! although i am everywhere in everything and everything is within me
but despite this i am not manifest in them and they are also not within me. But
there is an Exception, i become manifest in my Bhaktas and they also reside
within me constantly. although i am impartial to everyone but for my bhakta i
become partial in this respect."

Note: Shri Gitaji is a vaangmaya vigrah of Bhagwan Shri Krishna and we see him
in the form relevant to our bhava(Ja ki rahi bhavana jaisi, Prabhu murat tin
dekhi taisi. Therefore there is not a single meaning and single commentary on
Gita ji. there are many according to the bhava of the commentator, and all are
true and all are divine and all are perfect from their perspectives.

Jai Shri Krishna,

Dharmendra Sharma

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Dear Sadhakas,
Hare Krishna.
This is in response to a question from a Sadhaka regarding Bhavas from
BhagavadGita.

BhagavadGita stresses the importance of Bhaktiyoga which is straightforward, and
practical for this Kaliyuga. It is said all over Gita, to worship Him with
undivided attention which takes us to His Abode. I would like to mention a
couple.
" Na tad bhasayate suryo
Na sasanko napavakaha
Yadgatva nanivartante
Tad dharma paramam mama"
Gitaji (15, 6)
Which means,
' Supreme abode of The Lord is not illuminated by sun, moon, or fire. It is
illuminated by The Lord Himself. Once you reach Him, there is no question of
coming back to this material world.'

You can worship whichever deity you want but once you reach that particular
deity, after exhausting the punyakarma, you have to come back to the material
world. But once you reach Lord Krishna's abode you will not take birth again
which is described nicely in the following Verse.

"Abrahma bhuvanalloka
Punaravartinorjuna
Mam upetyatukaunteya
Punarjanma navidyate"
Gitaji (8,16)
Which means,
' From the highest to lowest planet , all are places of misery wherein repeated
births and deaths take place. One who attains My Abode will never take birth
again.'

Let us worship The Lord with undivided attention and attain Him in the end.

Thank You

Prasad A. Iragavarapu, MD

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Humble Saadhaka has nothing to share (bhavas from Gita) here in the forum,
reason being Silence can't be shared with others.
Humbly,
Saadhaka

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Dharmendraji, thanks for sharing your bhava. You have mentioned that God becomes
manifest to bhaktas and is partial to them. Who is "bhakta"?

"bhakta" is person who sees His Lord in all living beings. Such person serves
living entities around him/ her seeing presence of God in them. This starts with
treating one's family members and one's own self with love, respect, care,
service, kindness and compassion and then, extending it to one's city, state,
nation and ultimately, whole world.

Some people think that service to others is like sacrifice and is done at the
cost of one's own happiness. That is wrong understanding. Such person is happy
and content who lives life to the fullest and helps others to do so.

Regards,
Murari Das

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In the same way Goswami Tulasidas says,

"Hari vyapak sarvatra samana, prem te pragat hoi mai jana"

Dharmendra Sharma

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