Friday, May 17, 2013

[gita-talk] Re: What is Hindu Dharma? When did it come into existence? and more....


Humble Question to Shree Swami Param :
What is Hindu Dharma? When did it come into existence? What are its principles?
Ved Vyas (in Mahabharat) or Krishna (in Gita) or Valmiki (in Ramayan) said a lot
about 'Dharma' but not about 'Hindu Dharma' [Saadhaka couldn't find the word
'Hindu' therein].
If you could find, please specify the places (page number with name of the
publisher of the scripture).


Sadhak Shree Murari Das says,''Different people will define Hindu dharma differently. I define it as the teachings of Gita.''
None of the 700 verses of Gita used the very word Hindu. Teachings of Gita are relevant to all humans, irrespective of prefixes like Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Jain, etc.


"Dharma" can be interpreted to mean "characteristics", "duties", "responsibilities", "nature" of a particular thing or being. Dharma of water, fire, air, space, earth etc. etc. are different and fortunately these elements remain committed to their Dharma for the sustenance of all creations. Sanatana Dharma (eternal values) is meant for human beings and those who follow can lead a peaceful, purposeful and happy life. Sri Krishna explains "Dharma" very well in Bhagavad Gita. "Dharma" is beginingless and endless. As you have probably learned from the history that the word "Hindu" came into being by calling those who lived near the bank of Sindhu river and the epics referred to by you were part of Sanatana Dharma, followers of which later came to be known as Hindus.
Mohan Nair


What we have is known as 'Sanatana Dharma' and is the reason perhaps you could
not get any information. It is as ancient as Veds themselves. These are a set
of eternal truths and that is why it is called 'Sanatana' or eternal. They are
not bound by time and that is why they are valid today as well as for all these
thousands of years. For example the responsibility of a mother how to protect
her new offspring need not be told to her by anyone. It is an eternal truth be
it for humans or birds. They are adopted differently by different species
depending on the space time constraints naturally. Since the word Hindu was
adopted in the recent times by this ancient civilization one may consider them
to be Hindu Dharmas. This is my humble understanding after reading Mahabharata
and other texts quoted by the inquirer. God bless Sanatana Dharma as many
Hindus started distorting them by the new civilization in the recent times.

B Vempaty

hindu word never existed in those days; also when a person is teaching moral to his son, he is not going to use the name of the clan, caste...or orgin, he will simply tell his son this si not right, not done in our family or not told by my elders or sastras, or vedas...

R. Suryanarayanan


>> What is Hindu Dharma?

Different people will define Hindu dharma differently. I define it as the
teachings of Gita. The dharma of Gita is dharma of soul which is eternal.
Ultimately, I have to use term for teachings of Gita. Gita itself does not give
any name. Other names which can be used are Bhagavat-dharma, Sanatan dharma etc.

>> When did it come into existence?

The true science of soul came into existence when soul came into existence.
Since soul is eternal, dharma is eternal.

>> What are its principles?

Read Gita.

Americans think that Hindus practice untouchability and caste system. Hindus
think that their lineage is only carried by son and therefore, they want son.
They discriminate against women and are ready to abort their own daughter. They
practice dowry system and burn their daughter-in-laws. Hindus practice
polytheism and worship idols.

The teachings of Gita can never propagate discrimination based on race and
ethnicity. Gita, on the contrary, teaches oneness and unity among all. Self in
us is self in all. God (paramatma) in us and God in all. What can be more potent
message of love and equality than this? Same applies to women. Thousand years
ago, social structure discriminated against women because they were weak. That
is true for almost all societies. But both spiritual and materially speakings,
both men and women are divine. With the advancement of technology, women can
lead more safer life. So, they can pursue what they want materially and
spiritually both and Gita encourages them to do so. Therefore, the
discriminatory views towards women are not supported by Gita.

Gita is mono-theistic and accepts only one God. The same God is everywhere.
Therefore, one is supposed to go from not seeing God in this world to seeing God
in all. This starts with seeing God in positive symbols like image or scripture,
divine qualities, good people etc. But ultimate basis of symbolism is to come to
understanding that God is in all and all is God. That is highest form of

Murari Das


Neither in Vedas or Upanishads or Geeta there is Hindu Dharma. Word Hindu was a
geographic identity of people living on the east of river Sindhu or English word
Indus. Name was given by Arab Traders who used to come to India by sea route
through many of the Port Cities on Western Coast like Diva, Ghogha, Khambhat,
Mandvi or Surat before the birth of Islam
Much later during Islamic invasion of North India, and large scale conversion of
local people to Islam, word Hindu started denoting all those who were not
converted to Islam.
When Swami Dayananad Saraswati first time attempted to re-convert those Muslims
who wanted to become Hindus, he was surprised that word 'Hindu' did not exist in
Vedic Litterateur. Those who took to any spiritual practice starting with
observance of moral and ethical principles, who were able to maintain steady
state of their mind in adverse conditions by genuine surrender to God, and who
transformed their negativities of Hared, Greed, Jealousy, Arrogance etc. with
Love, Compassion, Cheerfulness, and Equanimity were called Dharmishtha or
Arya.New organisation started by Swami Dayanand Saraswati was therefore called
'Arya Samaj '. Religion was also known as Brahma Vidya and Mahrshi Devendranath
who along with Raja Rammohan Roy gave thought to reformed Hinduism, name given
was not Hindu Samaj but Brahma Samaj.
Bhagwan Budhha did not call his Dharma as Dharma, but called it Magga or
Sanskrit word Marg. First discourse given at Sarnath was at that time called
Arya Ashtangic Marg or popular dialect in which Bhagwan Budhha spoke, it was
called ' ariyo athanggiko maggo' whose English translation called 'Noble
eightfold Path'. So also Jains and Sikhs whose traditions took roots from
earlier Vedic Civilization
So word 'Hindu Religion' which is so common now has Islamic roots and is not
part of Sanskrit Vocabulary or spoken traditions before Isalm came to India.
Jayantilal Shah


Dear Sadaks,
Now we are in 28th Yuga period. 27 block of 4 yugas (4 headed Bhrama) ended with
Pralayas. To Hindu may be in next creation some other name. Naama Roopas will
only kill you. Sri Adi Sakara says, ''Pattathu sastrani----- Nah Labyathe Mukthi
Bhrma Santha Repini". By studying Sastras with Gyana one cannot get Mukthi over
thousands of Bhrama period.


Hari Om

Whether you have found term HINDU in Scriptures or not, that is not
material...important is that we are HINDUS and Hindu Dharma means Sanatan
Dharma. Sanatan Dharma is eternal, it is beginning less ! There is no benefit in
searching page nos etc. Earlier we were known as Aryas, then as Bharatvarshi , Indians or Hindus. Swamiji many times used the word Hindu Dharma or
Hindus. But so what ?

Jai Shree Krishna

Vyas N B


Thanks Paramji.

I am equally interested to know about how the Hindu came into existence and who
was the creator of it, although I am aware of the Sanatan Dharma of Bharatvarsh.



Nothing really. What one needs to do, if qualified, teach another the basic
principles of Hindu Dharma and Spiritual-Realization will take care of itself.

In Dharma,
Swami Param


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