Tuesday, May 14, 2013

[gita-talk] Re: What is Hindu Dharma? When did it come into existence? and more....


Humble Question to Shree Swami Param :
What is Hindu Dharma? When did it come into existence? What are its principles?
Ved Vyas (in Mahabharat) or Krishna (in Gita) or Valmiki (in Ramayan) said a lot
about 'Dharma' but not about 'Hindu Dharma' [Saadhaka couldn't find the word
'Hindu' therein].
If you could find, please specify the places (page number with name of the
publisher of the scripture).


What we have is known as 'Sanatana Dharma' and is the reason perhaps you could not get any information. It is as ancient as Veds themselves. These are a set of eternal truths and that is why it is called 'Sanatana' or eternal. They are not bound by time and that is why they are valid today as well as for all these thousands of years. For example the responsibility of a mother how to protect her new offspring need not be told to her by anyone. It is an eternal truth be it for humans or birds. They are adopted differently by different species depending on the space time constraints naturally. Since the word Hindu was adopted in the recent times by this ancient civilization one may consider them to be Hindu Dharmas. This is my humble understanding after reading Mahabharata and other texts quoted by the inquirer. God bless Sanatana Dharma as many Hindus started distorting them by the new civilization in the recent times.

B Vempaty

>> What is Hindu Dharma?

Different people will define Hindu dharma differently. I define it as the teachings of Gita. The dharma of Gita is dharma of soul which is eternal. Ultimately, I have to use term for teachings of Gita. Gita itself does not give any name. Other names which can be used are Bhagavat-dharma, Sanatan dharma etc.

>> When did it come into existence?

The true science of soul came into existence when soul came into existence. Since soul is eternal, dharma is eternal.

>> What are its principles?

Read Gita.

Americans think that Hindus practice untouchability and caste system. Hindus think that their lineage is only carried by son and therefore, they want son. They discriminate against women and are ready to abort their own daughter. They practice dowry system and burn their daughter-in-laws. Hindus practice polytheism and worship idols.

The teachings of Gita can never propagate discrimination based on race and ethnicity. Gita, on the contrary, teaches oneness and unity among all. Self in us is self in all. God (paramatma) in us and God in all. What can be more potent message of love and equality than this? Same applies to women. Thousand years ago, social structure discriminated against women because they were weak. That is true for almost all societies. But both spiritual and materially speakings, both men and women are divine. With the advancement of technology, women can lead more safer life. So, they can pursue what they want materially and spiritually both and Gita encourages them to do so. Therefore, the discriminatory views towards women are not supported by Gita.

Gita is mono-theistic and accepts only one God. The same God is everywhere. Therefore, one is supposed to go from not seeing God in this world to seeing God in all. This starts with seeing God in positive symbols like image or scripture, divine qualities, good people etc. But ultimate basis of symbolism is to come to understanding that God is in all and all is God. That is highest form of monotheism.

Murari Das


Neither in Vedas or Upanishads or Geeta there is Hindu Dharma. Word Hindu was a geographic identity of people living on the east of river Sindhu or English word Indus. Name was given by Arab Traders who used to come to India by sea route through many of the Port Cities on Western Coast like Diva, Ghogha, Khambhat, Mandvi or Surat before the birth of Islam
Much later during Islamic invasion of North India, and large scale conversion of local people to Islam, word Hindu started denoting all those who were not converted to Islam.
When Swami Dayananad Saraswati first time attempted to re-convert those Muslims who wanted to become Hindus, he was surprised that word 'Hindu' did not exist in Vedic Litterateur. Those who took to any spiritual practice starting with observance of moral and ethical principles, who were able to maintain steady state of their mind in adverse conditions by genuine surrender to God, and who transformed their negativities of Hared, Greed, Jealousy, Arrogance etc. with Love, Compassion, Cheerfulness, and Equanimity were called Dharmishtha or Arya.New organisation started by Swami Dayanand Saraswati was therefore called 'Arya Samaj '. Religion was also known as Brahma Vidya and Mahrshi Devendranath Tagore
who along with Raja Rammohan Roy gave thought to reformed Hinduism, name given was not Hindu Samaj but Brahma Samaj.
Bhagwan Budhha did not call his Dharma as Dharma, but called it Magga or Sanskrit word Marg. First discourse given at Sarnath was at that time called Arya Ashtangic Marg or popular dialect in which Bhagwan Budhha spoke, it was called ' ariyo athanggiko maggo' whose English translation called 'Noble eightfold Path'. So also Jains and Sikhs whose traditions took roots from earlier Vedic Civilization
So word 'Hindu Religion' which is so common now has Islamic roots and is not part of Sanskrit Vocabulary or spoken traditions before Isalm came to India.
Jayantilal Shah


Dear Sadaks,
Now we are in 28th Yuga period. 27 block of 4 yugas (4 headed Bhrama) ended with Pralayas. To Hindu may be in next creation some other name. Naama Roopas will only kill you. Sri Adi Sakara says, ''Pattathu sastrani----- Nah Labyathe Mukthi Bhrma Santha Repini". By studying Sastras with Gyana one cannot get Mukthi over thousands of Bhrama period.


Hari Om

Whether you have found term HINDU in Scriptures or not, that is not material...important is that we are HINDUS and Hindu Dharma means Sanatan Dharma. Sanatan Dharma is eternal, it is beginning less ! There is no benefit in searching page nos etc. Earlier we were known as Aryas, then as Bharatvarshi , ....now Indians or Hindus. Swamiji many times used the word Hindu Dharma or Hindus. But so what ?

Jai Shree Krishna

Vyas N B


Thanks Paramji.

I am equally interested to know about how the Hindu came into existence and who was the creator of it, although I am aware of the Sanatan Dharma of Bharatvarsh.



Nothing really. What one needs to do, if qualified, teach another the basic
principles of Hindu Dharma and Spiritual-Realization will take care of itself.

In Dharma,
Swami Param


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