We often go after the society and the family to satisfy them with something or other, but end up with a situation that they were satisfied for a short time and later forgot what we had done. But there is some one who gets fully satisfied with minimum and remembers us till the last. Who is it?
B.Sathyanarayan
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Dear sadaks,
Jeeva abides in Jagat and it abides in Jagdish. But Jagadish abides in something- Which?
B.Sathyanarayan
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Dear Sadaks,
Frustration is the way to anger. I see sadaks posting with unrest rather than calm interrogation and understanding. Sri Saadhaka said that swamiji said about Tattva. True, then what is Tattva? Paramathuma is embodiment of Tattva.
Sri Vayasji posted as, ((One MUST understand the essence behind Vasudev Sarvam. 'Sadsachhahamarjuna' (Gita 9:19) means 'I am asat (unreal/false/inert) as well as sat(real/ truth/sentient)' ! What does that mean? It does not mean 'asat' is equal to 'sat'. It means the essence in both 'asat' and 'sat'..the cause of both is Paramatma. Your body has nails and hairs too. Does that mean they are living? God is present equally in stool/dirt also, does that mean you should eat it? There has to be a limit of carrying a notion/theme/thought.))
Vasudevam is Sarvam vyapana. Asat is quite opposite to Sat. Sri Krishna HIMSELF clarifies- Sat and Asat. HE says that what all seen by human eyes/sense organ is Asat. Sat is that which is having NO end- No middle- NOT time bound- everlasting bliss etc. Asat is perishable and Sat is Non perishable/ non destructive by fire water etc is Athuman. That is why it is clear in our upanashids- one creation was first by Paramathuma and thereafter Sri Bhramiji took over creation. The creation is divided into twp parts. The second part alone is perishable. So Vasudevam is NOT in this perishable like Sri Vasji referred as stool. Cant Sri Vasji quote something other than stool, like sputum. Cant Sri Vasji post sweet words. Nails and hair is dead cells as per science. These are from 2nd creation from perishable body termed in sastras as Chetan and Achetan. Chetan is body and Achetan is nails and hair.
Nothing is too much when knowledge is concerned. Knowledge is boundless and we as sadaks have to be without disparity without difference of opinion work as a team, gain knowledge to the extent possible and attain liberation is our final goal. My respects to Sri Vyasji.
I wish to give clue to question: Yadha Yadha Dharmashya-------.
B.Sathyanarayan
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Bhaiya Vyas NB!
Whatever you say is also Vasudev.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.
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I do agree with Hari Shanker Deo
That someone is God
Mealy
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Hari Om
Hey Shraddheya Sathyanarainji ! We have always had sweet /sour healthy deliberations, satsanga, and exchanges of svaadhyay, devotion to Him through this Divine Satsanga Forum..we being regular contributors to satsanga deliberations since long. I pray and wish we continue doing so. But, believe me my reply referred by you in your latest post had nothing to do with any of your posts. Your question was answered fully to the best of knowledge and belief by answering reasonably: "No One".. vide my first post posting, and.. my subsequent postings were with reference to another gem of a Sadhak ,great satsangi and ardent devotee of our Father, our own Vasudev.. Paramatma...
Pranaams
Jai Shree Krishna
Vyas N B
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Bhaiya Sathyanarayanjee!
Not only Jagadeesh but Jeeva and Jagat also abide in 'Hai' which Swamijee termed as Tattva or Paramaatma or Everything which is termed Vasudev: in Gita 7 : 19.
Please see things [Jeeva, Jagat and Jagadeesh] through Gita 7 : 19.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.
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Hari Om
It is rather too much to bring Vasudev Sarvam into everything being discussed. Param Shraddheya Swamiji Ramsukhdasji Maharaj never did so. It is dangerous for a sadhak to do so, and it is forbidden to do so by Gita (3:26) and by all scriptures. In Yoga Vashishtha, one full chapter has been devoted on the subject, explaining as to how 'Vasudev Sarvam' when practiced/taught injudiciously takes you to hells and hurts the world at large.
One MUST understand the essence behind Vasudev Sarvam. 'Sadsachhahamarjuna' (Gita 9:19) means 'I am asat (unreal/false/inert) as well as sat(real/ truth/sentient)' ! What does that mean? It does not mean 'asat' is equal to 'sat'. It means the essence in both 'asat' and 'sat'..the cause of both is Paramatma. Your body has nails and hairs too. Does that mean they are living? God is present equally in stool/dirt also, does that mean you should eat it? There has to be a limit of carrying a notion/theme/thought.
There is no justification, therefore, in any one denying or disagreeing with the fact that there are 3 elements existing in universe viz Jeeva, Jagat and Jagdish. Entire Gita is based on this classification. Karma Yoga is with reference to Jagat, Jnana Yoga is with reference to Jeeva and Bhakti Yoga is with reference to Jagdish. What else is Gita except these three Yogas?
Hence, one should be very careful in this respect. Vasudev Sarvam is not some mathematical equation, which you can apply to everything on this earth or to every debate or discussion. The first harm it does to any healthy deliberations, is that it funnily distracts the sadhaks from the very topic of deliberations !
Ha...!
Jai Shree Krishna
Vyas N B
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Namaste to sri Vyasji,
Many deep and invaluable secrets in are sasrtas are understood only after very long and repeated concentrated or by Guru explanation. Even in Geetha many stances are only superficially understood. The inner depth of meaning is very interesting. You goodself said, (By your disagreeing or beating the drum, the fundamental aspects do not undergo change)- It is the minute anger caused from not agreeing to my posting. Kaamayesu- Krodh -Geetha. Desire to express your thought as right- then to unrecognizable anger. It is the same VASUDEV given you that thought and different thought to me. HE is seeing how we go about with love and affection even in adverse statements. Sri Vasji, Vasudev the supreme you OR me cannot understand. If I say, I understand HIM is utter lie says Upanashid and Vedas. But this supreme cannot go against something and abide in it- Please think What?
B.Sathyanarayan
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Who can remember till the last is, best of all.Who can hold most of the memory.Naturally the whole.We are insignificant parasites on earth.Our capacities have grown larger than our existence and that is what makes us proud,egoist and eccentric too.All our karma are memorised by some cosmic software and reassigns our next birth.There is overflow of our karma bytes to this cosmic entity which sheds back to perform afresh.And it is Him who records us the insignificant and remembers us to reassign till the last-in the whole process of cleansing our atma.Local phenomenon is dependant upon give take policy and is short lived.
SUBHASH CHANDER TEWARI
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Hari Om
Funny response from Sadhaka. That way there is no Bhaiyya or Bahen also. Again, we are madly on Vasudev Sarvam. But we have been so all along and so long one experiences that , and does not challenge others on this count , it is alright. Are you aware, once you experience Vasudev Sarvam , you BECOME SILENT ? Vasudev Sarvam is not some teaching or vidya or education or theory...it is realisation, Man ! By your stating Vasudev Sarvam, the poison does not become nectar...only you view the hand of Vasudev in both poison and nectar. By your disagreeing or beating the drum, the fundamental aspects do not undergo change, inert remains inert, sentient remains sentient, the three fold creation remains 'trigunatmak' , panchbhutas remain panchbhutas ...only the experiencer sees the essence of 'ISNESS' of Vasudev there.
A follower of Vasudev Sarvam should never say: Hey ..there is only Vasudev and nothing else . He should experience it and become silent and remain happy within himself. With whom you are disagreeing? Where is the Q of disagreement when everything is Vasudev ?
Ha...!
Jai Shree Krishna
Vyas N B
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Bhaiyaa Vyas NB says:
There are only 3 elements existing in the universe.. Jeeva, Jagat and Jagdish.
Saadhaka disagrees. Vasudev: Sarvam (Gita 7 : 19).
Humbly,
Saadhaka.
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Hari Om
My answer to this question is: NO ONE.
Actually according to me, there is no "till the last" in any of us. We all are beginningless and endless. Jagat lasts, never remains stagnant even for a fraction of a second, and Jeeva is eternal, beginningless and endless..!. Who then remains "till the last" ..? God..! Who else can?
Secondly... "Minimum" still has "something" however negligible that may be. Thirdly, the very yardstick of "minimum" or "maximum" restricts the offering to "objects" ( matter) like say Tulsi, or Flowers or Leaves (as minimum)..! So offering is of the "objects" of the world. But God accepts them only because of the sentiments of the offerer (bhakta) and surely not because of minimum or maximum. There the glory is not that of minimum ir maximum but of "sentiment" (mineness with Paramatma) . The slokas referred by many Divine Sadhaks from 9th Chapter of Gita actually glorify the sentiment of bhakta as against quantity ( patram, pushpam, phalam toyam)
There are only 3 elements existing in the universe.. Jeeva, Jagat and Jagdish. Jagdish (God) is Bhaavgrahi..( Acceptor of sentiments) not of any "minimum" or "maximum" object (BHAVGRAHI JANARDAN) ! So it can not be God.
It can not be Jagat also. Jagat (World) as a law never gets satisfied...deficiency is very fundamental nature of it. Thus, the Q of Jagat ever getting satisfied does not arise whether the offering to it is minimum or maximum or average.
Then the component of "remembering" related in the question as framed makes the very question further funny as Jagat changes ceaselessly .. and is inert ..! Jeeva is the one with reference to whom the remembrance or forgetfulness is referred in the question , so it cannot be Jeeva because somebody other than Jeeva has to remember / forget the offerer Jeeva as per question ! Other Jeevas get clubbed with Jagat, as either they become inert in association with Prakruti and thus fall in the category of "other than Self"..("Doosaro" in Mirabaai's immortal divine song ..Mere To Girdhar Gopal, Doosaro Na Koi) or becoming as deficient as Jagat thus incapable of getting ever satisfied and remembering the offerring Jeeva "till the last" because they themselves do not last till the end . How can they remember you "till the end" , if they themselves are mortal and perishable?
Again a little fun... Said Goswami Tulsidasji Maharaj in Ramcharitmanas .. SUR NAR MUNI SABKI YAH REETI, SWAARTH LABH KARE SAB PREETI ! HETU RAHIT JAG JUG UPKAARI TUM TUMHAAR SEVAK ASURARI ..! (Be it demi-gods or humans or wise , everywhere there is attraction only to get something in return . Exceptions are two God, and His Servants (Bhaktas) ) ! So the Q must take Bhaktas as offering minimum or maximum and thus the Q can leave only Jagat and Jagdish to choose and reply has to be one of these two.
Thus the only person remaining capable of 'remembering' is God..and He has never forgotten us..! When He has never forgotten us, where is the question of His remembering us? That again makes the Q funny.
THUS correct answer is : NO ONE.
Ha..just in a lighter vein..
Jai Shree Krishna
Vyas N B
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very beautiful question.
I think it is Nature. We call it as Mother nature.
Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri
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Sadhak says :
that is GOD alone and God that is with us till our last breath.
Sadhak please confirm what you say. God is WITH us EVER and NOT till last breath (of body) as NOTHING exists that is NOT God. [Gita 7 :19].
Humbly,
Saadhaka.
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Sri Chaman nigam, Posting
((that is GOD alone and god that is with us till our last breath .we may remember HIM or not but he never forgets us may be sometimes we are not happy with HIS decisions but if we believe in rebirth we get to the conclusion what we had done we are getting .jai shree krishna))
Small change in it." Certainly HE is until last breath- If HE quits- next second -Savam. It is not "We may remember HIM"- We do remember HIM always- faith. HE is not the decider Sir, your Karma is the deciding factor. For having sent arrow by Sri Rama behind tree to Vaali- HE (Sri Krishna) was hit by arrow by the same Vaali (but in new body- called Jara). Sir, absolutely wrong concept, "we believe in rebirth we get to the conclusion what we had done we are getting". Where come this loss of faith when Sri Krishna has promised, " Surrender to me (God) and I (God) shall give you moksha in this same birth". My pure opinion- I am doing everything as in case of normal human- knowingly doing mistakes- But I tell Sri Krishna daily 3 times- I do not know anything of my past- present and future- But I 100% know I am reaching your lotus feet by the end of this birth. It is YOUR responsibility. Make me suffer- give me happiness- cut my relationship with family or friend- make me poor- do what YOU want- I understand I was doing all these rubbish over several birth- and had so many friend- wives- children etc -But OH MY dear SRI KRISHNA now I know you- I dont know sastras, proper pooja, etc but please let me not forget you any moment- I am certain YOU will come that breath time- like YOU came to Narayana Battar, Namadev, Ramadoos, prostitute Jeevanthi, like Ajamilan bad man, Gajendran etc, I am still worst than them- But YOU are Karuniya ROOPA and I remember the promise you said that in this same birth YOU will take me- I can only lift my arms and say Namaste- "" Namo Vishnuve Vasudevaya Thubyam,- Namo Narashiha Swaroopa Thubyam, Namak Kaala roopya Samhara Krithe, Namaste Varahaya Buyo Namastre. Namaste Jaganatha Visnur Namaste, Namaste Gaja Chakrapani Namaste, Namaste Prapannar Harim Namaste, Samasthaapradhasm Sasmaswagi Lesha" Sadaks- please forgive me, If I am wrong.
B.Sathyanarayan
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Remembrance … till the end … GOD
Again, I understand the well-known answer expected here is "GOD"!
Memory IS ESSENTIAL only to support the cognitive mechanism. Accordingly, remembrance is essential to percieve in contrast against some previous experiences as remembered (Smrithi) to appreciate the current experience (Anubhava). Obviously, the memory ought to be bound by the two delimiters just like its client, cognition - inception (the objective/circumstantial parameters that generated the experience) and conclusion (the subjective/emotional understanding that encompassed the experience).
Therefore, remembrance ought to be preceded by something - an circumstantial incidence associated with an emotional response from within! An incidence is verily preceded by many things around - infinitude of cause-effect chains confluencing onto the incidence!! A memory is verily preceded by many things within - infinitude of emotional impressions projected onto the experience!!! Thus remembrance is preceded by an infinitude of its own ghosts peering out from the past ... as such it can remain merely a phantom captive within one's own cognitve skills and capabilities ...
AND ... any experience is just a point in a pointless grid of its siblings all through the memory jumbled within one's cellular mosaic!!!!
Just like any other cognitive entity, remembrance is also bound to one such point-less point in the bound-less grid of memorial impressions captive within the existential elements scattered in their own infinite grid over the universe. Any experiential element such as remembrance, therefore, cannot be transferred from one point to its very neighboring point ... how can it ever transmute the infinitude of the grid and encompass the same to be the answer that is expected here?????!!!!!
To summarize, remembrance is bound by many factors:
1. It ought to be related to an earlier experience (Smrithi) related to a specific incidence.
2. It is composed by a mosaic of images drawn from one's residual memory.
3. Each image remains just an emotional trace the actual incidences.
4. It is preceded by a lapse of presence in one's active experience (Anubhava).
5. It cannot remain in one's active experience unless being recalled from the memory perpetually.
6. It proceeds into the lapse of presence in active experience eventually.
7. It requires the dual cessation - subject and object - to define itself.
Therefore, remembrance is a necessity and reality to only those who are bound to jump amongst the cognitive bounds in order to exist!
Therefore, I ought to say the very term "remembrance" is just an individual claim on an experience in an attempt to fill a non-existing void embedded within one's very memory. Remembrance can exist ONLY WHEN one digs out the images from their graveyard. It is a possibility ONLY IF and ONLY AS LONG AS one can keep drawing the supporting images from memory. Nothing other than one's claim can ever support it! Therefore, REMEMBRANCE (just like any other perception) EITHER EXISTS OR DOES NOT EXIST. It is one's temporal capability of drawing related images from one's experience (Anubhava) and memory (Smrithi) to generate and sustain the claim.
THE ONE that remains transcendental to all perceived notions and their phantoms in the backyard of memory cannot be captured by any as such. IN THAT, the very act of remembrance ceases in-spite of being active otherwise … the very perception remains within its eternal silence in-spite of rustling restlessly all the while … the very existence remains in its natural dissolution in-spite of its perpetual morphing into its own apparent variances …
Respects.
Naga Narayana.
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Dear Sadaks,
Simply superb to all and to Mr.Prasad. sadaks are just NOT reading Bagavath Geetha, but deeply embedding with thought, "Patram, Puspam, Palam,Thoyam"
This sloka is prasad to all of us. (Yo me bhaktya prayacchati Tadaham bhakty upahrutam) Sadaks Please elaborate the meaning.
Asnami prayatatmanah. "Second: If God with all of us gets satisfied, then there is greed, anger etc to many. Will not God guide them instead they remain with bad in character. Sri Hari Shanker Deo- That someone is GOD, Then why that GOD accepts the offerings only from people like Sri Ragavendra, Namadev, Kannapa? Sri Pratap Bhatt- Body mechanism as per Kapila Geetha is designed by our Karmas and time framed.(Birth time based on stars- death time based on stars) Sri Krishna and Sri Rama also choose time of birth. In Vasita Geetha Sri Vasista tells Sri rama that one Sri Krishna will be born and tell a person Arjuna Geetha. We humans all have enormous power and brain to know our past births and our day of leaving this earth. Example: Namadev was predicted that he will be born on particular star as Tukaram. Sri Krishna tells his mother Yasodha that she will be born as Baguda Mala and HE will appear as Venkataramana. Srimath Bagavath says, that Sri Vishnu will come as Kalki to the parents (Names I dont remember) on a perticular day and time. On earth time frame is very important and it is law of GOD. That is why though Sri Krishna was GOD, he studied under Guru Sandipar and learnt 63 arts in 63 days. Here also time frame. HE could have learnt in 10 days. There is a law in Upanashid to learn a art a day. Sri Krishna never oversees the rules. But before the time fixed for death, a person kills himself, remains on earth with enormous sufferings. Example Gokarn brother and so many. So body mechanism is prefixed with breathing, diseases etc. Only rare persons like Markandeya over comes this time frame. A farmer over came death by Bagavan Shiva grace. Chirst time of birth was predicted long before to Kairos. Christ crusification was predetermined. It is package delivered by GOD and GOD remains only as Sri Vishnu in the size of thumb finger in vacuum cell near the heart. So HE does not decide to stop breath for suicidal person. HE remains witness and gives freedom.
B.Sathyanarayan
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that is GOD alone and god that is with us till our last breath .we may remember HIM or not but he never forgets us may be sometimes we are not happy with HIS decisions but if we believe in rebirth we get to the conclusion what we had done we are getting .jai shree krishna
Chaman nigam
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Dear Sadaks,
Sri Krishna is satisfied- with Pathram, Pusham, Palam, Thoyam. Certainly we all know about well. But we dont understand, When Namadev, Kannapar, Sri Ragvendra (When in Childhood), Sri Ekanath, Vithura (Gave Plaintain fruit) and they gave may be water or a fruit or nothing was given by Baktha Gora, HE appeared or taken the offerings. My question is where we miss and what we miss so that our offerings are (Though God accepts manashigamly) it is not taken directly by GOD.
The first part of question- We run, sacrifice, etc to known ones who forget the help (Though not given with expectation), but unrecognizable (Just 2 tears- our heart quenching with love just for 5 seconds in the span of a year) God remembers it and looks forward when this soul can be put in right path, with a Sat Guru, Sat Sangh etc. What is need for Sri Krishna to drink the poison of Meera/Prahalad/Neelakandar etc?
B.Sathyanarayan
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Every Being other than God can never be satisfied eternally with any thing, any action or whatever human can conceive in mind as all that (thing, action or whatever) is impermanent.
So be it.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.
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Shree Hari
God does not have the strength to leave us and to stay apart from us. The day that God leaves us and stays apart from us, that day we become a separate God. There will be two Gods, which is not possible. God cannot simply leave us, till the very end. God never separates from us. He is incapable of separating from us. God is omnipresent, All Pervasive. God is entirely present in all the places, time, things and men, thus how can God leave us? If God leaves us, then how can God be called omnipresent? We cannot live by leaving God. If we live, we shall live in God. If we do not live in Him, then too we will live in Him. If we are born, we will live in Him, if we die then too we will live in him and if we attain salvation (go beyond
birth and death) then too we shall live in Him. We cannot live without Him, neither can He live without us. (from Eternal Union with God by Swami Ramsukhdasji)
Ram Ram
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Dear Gita-Talk member,
It will be so little effort to "pray in your thinking" after
you have "thrown all your physical thoughts away" and that
God will be satisfied by your action. If you do the same
for long enough time (how much, depends on your karma),
you may begin to get "bells and whistles" from God. This
is so powerful.
Good Luck. Bye.
Notesh Otes
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Hari SharaNam,
I do appreciate the second part of the question (i.e. who gets satsified ..) which is already answered by our divine friends but I am having difficulty in understanding the first part of the question although it is asked by many including my wife.
In my understanding, Blessed are those who can not even remember the helps/services, howsoever great might be in people's eyes, performed for the benefits of the family, relatives, friends, socity, country, world through their bodies/instruments provided by the Supreme. If something is to be remembered, it is the Supreme who remembers/knows everything within and beyond the time.
VEDAAHAM SAMTEETAANI VARTAMAANAANI CHAARJUN |
BHAVISHYAANI CHA BHOOTAANI MAAM TU VEDA NA KASCHAN || (GitaJi - 7/26).
May all be blessed!
Niteesh Dubey
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Satisfaction ... minimal satisfaction ... GOD
I understand that our Satyanarayan wants a well-known answer "GOD" to his quiz!
Satisfaction is not a continuous function to have a definitive minimum :).
Satisfaction ought to be preceded by something - dissatisfaction !
Dissatisfaction is verily preceded by something else - lack of something !!
Lack of anything requires another precedent - want for that thing !!!
Want for any thing can proceed from only one thing - awareness of that thing !!!!
Of course, as for anything else, something always precedes an awarensss - existence !!!!!
AND ... any existence is just a point in a pointless grid of its siblings all through this universe !!!!!!
Therefore, just like any othr emotional notion, satisfaction is also bound to one such point-less point in the universal grid of existence. Eny existential element such as satisfaction, therefore, cannot be transferred from one point to its very neighboring point ... how can it ever transmute the infinitude of the grid and enompass the same to be the answer that you want?????!!!!!
Therefore, I ought to say the very term "satisfaction" is a figment of one's imagination to fill a non-existing void embedded within one's very delusion. Therefore, SATISFACTION (just like any other notion) EITHER EXISTS OR DOES NOT EXIST. It is one's temporal state of acceptance or rejection. The very existence of satisfaction sounds so delusional ... its variance - whether minimal or maximal - ought to be more delusional ...
THE ONE that remains transcendental to all perceived notions such as satisfaction cannot be measured by any as such ...
Therefore, I beg the withdrawal of the very quiz Satyanarayanji :).
Respects.
Naga Narayana.
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Dear Sadaks!
Namaskar!
Most of the Sadaks say that God is satisfied with minimum and remembers us till the end. The problem with this answer is that God is a term which most of us have not been able to conceive and grasp well! Still at times, people mostly wonder whether God exists at all or not! Yes, hypothetically Patram Pushpam Falam Toyam.... can be the best possible answer!
But, if you analyze with YOUR TRUE SELF about which you have no doubt or least doubt for its existence then, the better answer could be the stage of your own self after going beyond your BODY & MIND. In that stage, though you would continue to have MIND but, it would be a balanced and satisfied one with and without, within and outside!!! Conclusively therefore, it is the "TRUE YOU" of your own self, who is satisfied even without minimum what to speak of with minimum and is conscious of you, remembers you and also takes care of you self!!!! .
THAT TRUE YOU of you COULD BE GIVEN A NAME AS GOD!
Regards!
Kuldeep Kumar Kaul
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Dear Sadhakas,
Hare Krishna.
This is in response to a question from a Sadhaka.
Lord Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita,
" Patram Pushpam Phalam toyam
Yo me bhaktya prayacchati
Tadaham bhakty upahrutam
Asnami prayatatmanah. "
( Gitaji 9, 26)
Which means,
' If one offers with devotion, a leaf, flower, fruit, or water, I accept. '
If we offer with devotion, Lord accepts it how ever small it may be.
If we serve Him with total surrender, then He stays with us till the end and beyond.
Thank you.
Prasad.A.Iragavarapu, MD
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But there is some one who gets fully satisfied with minimum and remembers us till the last. Who is it?
Answer is : The GOD within every living being including yourself.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.
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That someone is God.
Hari Shanker Deo
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Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!
Simple answer to the question by our dear SathyanarayanJi, is: God is satisfied with minimum as stated in Gita (patram phalam pushpa toyam,,,,) and does take care of us as body-mind organism till last breath! It is His body only and He is breathing as long as He likes to do so and then quits!
However, why should we expect from family, society, or so-called "others"? Gita says to do the best for them, use the body-mind as tool to serve, and serve only in the spirit of Karma-Yoga! If you don't do your duty then it is your problem, if they are not happy or satisfied with it, it is their problem! Draw them to Gita or scriptures, satsangs, that is all one can do!
When you serve them you are serving God only, this is minimum God can be happy!
Another point is whatever you do for them through objects of this world, it will always be temporary satisfaction to them as well as to you too! It is the nature of all objects being limited, can only give limited satisfaction. Knowing this truth you can use the objects of the world without getting attached to them, so the satisfaction doesn't depend upon them beyond minimum use!
Namaskar..............Pratap Bhatt
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possibly, you are driving to the Sloka
PATRAM PUSHPAM PHALAM TOYAM YO ME BHAKTYAA PRAYACHCHATI
TAT AHAM BHAKTI UPAHRITAM ASNAAMI PRAYATAATMANAH
Paramaatma is the one being that is satisfied not with minmum but nothing. Anyone whose wants are none is satisfied with less than nothing. His pleasure is happiness joy and bliss
krishna
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very true ,most of us have had such experiences and are helpless .,we really don't know what to do .we just keep on living like that .and at times get depressed .jai shri krishnaÂ
Chaman nigam
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