Jai jai sri Radhe
Swamiji, my deepest respects and pranaams to you. Swamiji, I am unable to know what is my duty and non-duty? Support I am the only son of my father and mother, and they are entirely dependent on me. And if I have seen a murder taking place, and was asked to be a police witness, then is it proper for me to take the stand as a witness? If it is proper, then who will take care of my father and mother? Please kindly share with me, what is my duty at such a time?
IN HINDI
Jai jai sri Radhe
swamiji ko mere koti koti pranam.Swamiji main yeh nahin jan pa raha
hun ki kya mere liye kartbya hai or kya akartbya hai.Suppose,main mere
pita mata ke ek lauta beta hun aur mere family mere upar pura depend
karta hai .Yadi main ek murder hote hue dekha aur mujhe police witness
banane ko kaha,to kya meri sakhi dena uchit hoga?yadi yeh uchit hai to
mere pitamata ke kaun palan karega?krupaya aap batayen ki ish samaya
mere liya kya kartabya hai?
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Shree Hari Ram Ram
Sadhaks may also respond in Hindi. Ram Ram
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Dear ALL,
Namaskar!!
Simple is "what you expect others to do for you if you are in their place under that particular Instance"!!!
This derivation is from statement of good number of leading religions that
"DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT YOU EXPECT OTHERS TO DO TO YOU UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE"
(Kuldeep Kumar Kaul)
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Dear Ones, Namaste!
Just as Humble sadhaka has implied, I would say the same. First be free from worries regarding your parents, they will do fine. God will find ways to keep them protected. We are instrument to serve.
Once you are convinced of this Truth, then surrender to God and sincerely pray to show you the way to act in this matter. You have to be like Arjuna.
Know that it is not "you" that is acting when you do this, you are asking God to give you Intelligence and courage to act. He will do so in the way that is better for all parties involved.
We all sadhakas here are sure God's voice will guide you.
Namaskar..........Pratap Bhatt
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Morally you are bound to help the state and kins of the victim.But general experience with police is that you cannot trust them for your own security.B ribes and other types of nonintegral attitude is common experience.So act wisely to help the affected people.Some others' suggestions in this post are also valuable.
subhashtewari
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Dear sadaks,
This reply to all sadaks generally. We have seen in depth Vasudeva Sarvam Mayam. Here the murderer and the murdered are one and the same Dharmically. Difficult to understand. Adi Sankara was to be beheaded, Buddha was to killed, Tukaram was sentenced to death, Abirami Battar was to be burnt alive, etc etc. But GOD was not witness to those. God saved his Bakthas. If God wished that the man murdered was to live NO ONE could prevent for him to alive. Hiranya wanted to kill Prahalad many attempts- failed. Sri Krishna asking to wage war to kill in opponents is question in many. Duryodhan was given many chances that he would become good. Lastly Sri Krishna asked only 5 villages NOT kingdom. Refused he faced death. Here the good and the bad on side of Duryodhan was killed for supporting. Last chance was given in battle field saying those interested in moving to Arjuna side welcomed and they will be saved. NO one came. It is Duryodhan and others opted to be killed. Sri Rama told Ravana to go today and come back next day, since he was without arms. NO- he opted to be killed. Prahalda song says- that Sri Hari is both the killer and one killed. Vasudevam Sarvam- Naham Boktha or Naham Kartha- who are you to think about witness. Remain in within on SELF (Athuma)
B.S
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Dear Sadhaks
I agree with Harry Desaiji. Hypothetical questions have never helped. We have used this method of creating hypothetical situation to equip women to deal with difficult situations. The impact was extremely avoidable. Even the resource persons who designed the method went ballistic with their emotions and behaviour.
And we can be witness and also take care of parents when we surrender to Krishna/ God/ Devine power of existence/... In case of situation of murder everyone involved have a duty to restore justice. Tell the court and the police that you need to take care of your parents and also want to be witness. This would be one of the ways to extend our boundaries of duty - social and personal. In fact, a situation that has potential to realise Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam.
Pranaams
Veena
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As question is to set of sadhaks, then the answer is straight. Be a witness to
the Truth, and leave the consequences to god.
No doubt the easier the nishkaam karma sounds in theory, the tougher it is to
apply in the situations life throw at us.
The more we practice the nishkaam karma in easier situations, the easier it will
be for us to make decision in tough situations.
One can't become a professional in a day, it takes years of practice.
The situation you have got into is indeed a tough one, so you would be able to
do only that much as you have practised until now.
regds,
rakesh
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Dear Sadhaks,
There is reason why what should be Dharma is defined only in general terms such as non-violence, respect for life, gods etc. If the Dharma is defined in precise terms then people of Asuri nature will try to subvert it. We have whole lot of Puranic stories to attest to that fact. In modern world also there are people who study law only to subvert it.
So DO WHAT YOUR ATMA SAYS, as Atma is connnected to Paramatma and stop asking hypothetical questions which only helps Dustas, scoundrels, and hurt good people. Dustas only fear divine action, therefore defining dharma for them is like giving liquor to a monkey. One's fears in a particular situation may be illusion only.
Harry Desai
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Tasmaacchasastram pramaanamm te kaaryaakaaryavyavastitou |
Gyaatyaa shaatravidhaanoktam karma kartuminhaarhasi || (Gita 16/24)
Let the scriptures be the guide in determining the rules around duty (what ought to be done) and non-duty (what ought not to be done)
Seema S
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Duty
conflicts between personal and relational priorities
It is unfortunate that you had to witness a murder. The dilemma here is a natural one
should one take certain stand for social welfare even if to poses potential risk for one's family? One can boldly add one more conflict
what about personal fears of loosing hold on life??
The dilemma here is clear
where does one's duty stand - person or family or society or planet
?
Let us understand the origin of this sense of duty first. The reason one develops a sense of duty is to ensure one's survival at certain levels. One's survival can be threatened at various levels in one's life. It could be sheer personal. In this case, what if the goons target the witness in vengeance? Bottom line is this fear. However, it may sound too selfish if it is articulated as is. Then, one comes up with nobler reasons in its support ... what about my family that depends on me?
Of course, duty toward family is valid as well since one knows one's very existence through the relations one nurtures in this life. The relations are developed to boost the dependency that one ought to pursue in order to boost one's own existence. The very dependency becomes emotional identity as one derives life nurturing support through these relations. The related ones become extended identity to the person. Any threat to this extended identity is a threat to one's very identity as well. Therefore, a sense of duty is developed to safe-guard the relations and hence the related.
The family is the immediate relation while the society is an extended one with similar but weaker qualities. One develops identities toward the society that supports one's life at various levels - community, religion, nationality, etc. Sounder the society, better one's prospects of living. Therefore one would definitely take stakes to preserve and promote the societies one belongs to. It becomes a sense of duty again.
All senses of duties are righteous in their own sense. Yet, one need not adhere to another strictly since the very sense is generated circumstantially. Each person's personal, family and social needs, dependencies and the associated obligations are rooted in the founding relations. The relations remain unique to the person's inherent qualities - nature, attitudes and behaviors. Therefore, the sense of duty remains unique to the person involved as well as the relation involved.
Therefore, only generic guidelines can be provided. The individual has to apply the same to one's unique circumstance to resolve the issue to one's best abilities.
1. Shreyaan swadharmo viguNah! Appreciate your nature and your fundamental needs closely and transparently. Even if there are apparent negative connotations on the observed natural attitudes and behaviors in you, accept the fact that THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE! Then you would know where your personal priorities stand against the odds posed to you in any situation. Clear appreciation of one's true priorities is the first and foremost need to address any issue effectively minimizing the a posteriori ill-effects - frustration, disappointment, dissatisfaction, anger, jealousy, guilt, repentance, fear, etc. - on oneself.
2. Na buddhibhedam janayet!! Whatever you understand from your self evaluation, be cognizant NOT TO BE MISLEAD with your own emotional baggage. Clarity of understanding is fundamental for the best resolution to any dilemma. Therefore, understand your relations closely. Let it not increase your dilemma ... apply your vigilant discrimination to remove all confusions. Accept the relations and their relative values for you as they are. Again transparency within is fundamental for clarity. Even if you see negative connotations regarding your views, accept them exactly as they are. Then you would know where your relational priorities stand.
3. Yadyadacharet
tattadevetaraah!!! Remember the natural facts of existence. Again transparent clarity is fundamental here. If you do not want to be treated in certain way, better do not treat any that way. If you do, it is most probable that you may have to face retaliation. For example, you may prioritize your personal needs higher which may invite wrathful relational retaliation. That is where Rule #2 becomes all the more important. Keep the clarity of your overall appreciation of the situation at the pedestal. You are just one player in the situation. Develop a clear understanding of all other players in the situation and their relation to you. Being impersonal about the whole situation often helps. Try your best to be a mere witness to the situation so that you can observe yourself with same importance as other players. Often, it brings clarity in one's appreciation of the situation and sanity in one's priorities of actions to be taken.
Again, the way these principles ought to be adopted is circumstantial and the responsibility lays on the individual to seek clarity amongst conflicts and contradictions amongst one's perceived priorities. Hope you gain wisdom to understand and strength to forge ahead in your difficult and sensitive situation.
Respects.
Naga Narayana.
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dear sadaks,
Duty is restricted to family, Guru & GOVIND. That which you see in the world follow 3 monkeys- Monkey with ear shut- mouth shut- eyes closed.
B.Sathyanarayan
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Lord says, to see toward your innate duty, therefore for a Kshatriya it is only beneficial to fight the war of righteousness . (Gita 2/31). It is only by fulfilling duty that man progresses, and by going towards non-duty he takes a fall. The main thing in fulfilling one's duty, is to renounce desires, proprietary interest and attachment. The meaning of renouncing these is that one should not have the aim of "jada", the inert (insentient). Seek guidance from God.
Pallavi
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Sadhaks please explain to me what Swamiji means by the following and whether it applies to the question being asked and how does it apply?
If a man can do something, but is not doing it, it is
regarded as undutiful "akartavya".
Bala G K
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itihaasamen kaheen padhaa thaa ki veer shivaako usake gurune bodh karaaneke liye pattharake neechese nikale mendhakako dikhakar poochhaa thaa,''kyaa isako toone hee khilaa-pilaakar jeevit rakhaa huaa hai?"
veer shivaa samajh gayaa ki sabakaa paalanahaar paramaatmaa hai.
astu.
savinay,
saadhaka
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