Wednesday, January 4, 2012

[gita-talk] Sudden and Untimely Death - Questions?

 

Shree Hari
Ram Ram!

A great timely message! These days many young people are commiting suicide, the parents have tough time understanding- is it due to Prarabhda?

Humble regards,
Madan Kaura

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What happens in case of an accident?
"Prashanth Mohan"

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Shree Hari Ram Ram

Please await the entire topic posting in the days ahead. Please also read few of Swamiji's responses to questions on similar topic.

There are several AUDIO recordings in English based on Swamiji's response pertaining to DEATH, please listen to these at:

http://swamiramsukhdasji.net/Audio/Audio_Pertaining_to_Death.htm

Please also read Swamiji's response to questions related to suicide.

Question: A few students commit suicide, while failing in an examination. Why? How to solve this problem?

http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.net/eBooks/Youth/youth.htm
Search on word "suicide".

Question: Whatever the man remembers at the time of death (at time of leaving his body), that he will attain, does this ruling apply to even those that commit suicide ?

http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.net/QA/QA.htm

Search on word "suicide".

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Shree Hari
Ram Ram

2nd January, 2012, Monday
Paush Krishna Navami, Somvar, Vikram Samvat 2068

Sudden and Untimely Death

There is one "unexpected and sudden death" and one "untimely and premature" death. Not understanding the difference between the two, people often call the "unexpected death" as also "premature and untimely death," when it is not so. Therefore it is essential to know the difference between the two.

No man wishes to die, but suddenly if he dies, in other words, if he dies in some bad incident (accident), if he dies from an electric shock, if he dies from a snake bite then this is his "unexpected and sudden" death.

If some man commits suicide or hangs himself or drinks poison, or sits under railway tracks, or dumps from the balcony or terrace, or jumps into a river or intentionally dies by some means, then this is his "untimely and premature death".

"Unexpected and sudden" death takes place as one's life-span ends per a person's destiny, but "untimely and premature death" takes place even though life-span is still remaining. "Untimely and premature death," i.e. suicide is a new act of horrendous sin, it is not fate or destiny. He who commits suicide, he is committing the sin of killing a man, for which he will have to pay a severe price in the world beyond. Out of His grace, God has bestowed this extremely rare form of birth, this human birth for His attainment, and for our welfare. To destroy such a rare form of birth, by committing suicide, is a great sin, a very heavy sin!

Sometimes a man is saved even after attempting to commit suicide, rather he does not die. Here, the reason is that there is a relationship with some other being. Just as, if in the future if he was going to have a son, then even on attempting to commit suicide, he will not die; because the destiny and fate of the child to be born in the future will prevent him from dying. Similarly, another's fate when adjoined with him, causes him not to die even though he attempts to commit suicide. If in the future some very important work were to be executed through him or if due to what was destined, significant pleasure or pain were to come to him, than even on attempting suicide, he will not die. However, he will have to incur the sins of killing a man, and its fruits in the form of pain will also be very significant. Just as when someone fires a gun pointing to a judge, but the bullet does not hit the judge, than too he will receive a punishment for that act; because his intention was to kill the judge. Similarly, simply by having the intent of committing suicide, one incurs sins.

Those who commit suicide experience immense difficulty and torment at the time of death, and he wishes to be saved from dying, that somehow or the other, may I be saved, but there is no chance of him being saved then! He undergoes much repentance and remorse, that I did a very wrong thing, but now what! Therefore even the desire to commit suicide is a grave sin.

However severe a problem may arise, however much of suffering may take place, however much we may be disgraced, one should never want to commit suicide. The unfavorable and unhappy situations that will come to you due to the fruit of past actions, will come regardless. Even on committing suicide one cannot be saved from these situations. On the contrary, a new sinful act will be incurred! However, if you will endure the painful situations, then past sins will be eradicated and you will become pure.

No situation will remain forever. Neither pleasure will remain, nor pain, will remain. After the sun rises, it will set, and after it sets, it will rise again, this is the law of nature. Therefore when unfavorable situations arise, one should not become fearful -

Sukham dukham cha bhavaabhaavou cha laabaalaabhou maranam jeevitam cha |
Payaaryatah sarvamavaapnuvanti tasmaad dheero naiva hrshyenna shochet || (Mahabhaarat, shaantiparva 25/31)

Pleasure – pain, construction-destruction, birth-death, gains-losses – these come to all in gradation at the appropriate times. Therefore a patient man does not become either elated or laments over these.

Yadbhaavi tadbhavatyeva yadbhaavyam na tadbhavet |
Iti nishrichtbuddheenaam na chintaa baadhate kachchit || (Naradpuran, Purva 27/47)

"That which is to happen, will surely happen and that which is not to happen, will never happen - he whose intellect is certain about this, he will never be troubled by worries."

When we take the blessed water, we say -

Akaalamrutyuharanam sarvavyaadhivinaashaanaam |
Vishno paadodakam peetyaa punarjanma na vidhyate ||

The blessed nectar-filled water from Lord Vishnu's Lotus Feet, is the kind that can seize away the "untimely and premature" death (foolishness), and can destroy all illnesses. He who takes it, will not undergo another birth."

Therefore all should continue to seek the blessed water of the Lord's Lotus Feet, by which suicide (foolishness of the intellect), false notions will not be born. The blessed water of Gangaji, are from the Lotus Feet of the Lord. Young and old, both should take the blessed water from the Lord's Lotus Feet, both morning and evening.

If one man kills another man then it is the "unexpected and sudden death" of the one who died, but the killer incurs a new sin, for which he will have to suffer severe consequences. The reason is, such ordinance is in no one's destiny that he will die by the hands of a particular individual. The one to die can die of some reason or the other when his life span comes to an end, but the one to kill him without any cause becomes an instrument, and becomes a participant in the sins. Just as in the court of law, it was ordered that a particular man is to be hanged at 10 o'clock. However some other man rescues him from the clutches of the jailers and exactly at 10 o'clock executes him. The reason he did so, is that he had great animosity for this man; he thought that he will kill him and take revenge and even complete the work of the law officers. But in such a situation, even the man who kills will receive a punishment of being executed. Because in the court of law, the punishment of execution was to be performed by the jailers, not anyone else. (to be continued)

From book in hindi "Satsang Muktahaar" by Swami Ramsukhdasji.

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