Wednesday, November 30, 2011

[gita-talk] Re: The Bhagavad Gita - Daily Message - 7-3

 

Shree Hari

II 7:3 II

manushyânâm saharesu kascidyatati siddhaye
yatatâmapi siddhânâm kascinmâm vetti tattvatah (Gita 7:3)

Among thousand of men, hardly one, strives for perfection, and of those men that do, scarcely one, knows Me in essence.

Comments - In reality, God (Paramatma) Realization is not difficult or a rarity, rather those who are following the path of realization are a rarity. Most men are deeply immersed in worldly pleasures and hoarding. Out of thousands of men, only one such person emerges who with a true aim, heart and longing walks the path towards Paramatma. Of those liberated intelligent great souls, may be there is only one that is desiring to know Bhagwân and that great soul, on having faith realizes that "Everything is only God" - in this manner, he gains knowledge of God in entirety, and attains His divine love. The point here is that, the loving devotee who understands God's entire Universal manifestation (samagraha roop), is an extreme rarity (durlabh). (Gita 7:19)

Knowing God's form in entirety (samagraha roop) is in itself knowing His real and true divine form (yathârth roop). God's real and geniune form can be known only through devotion (Gita 18:55).

A spiritual aspirants that has within himself inborn, instinctive devotion, and he who does not put devotion down, such a seeker, when he is liberated, then all perishable and destructible pleasure seeking desires are wiped out altogether in him, but the hunger for inner relish does not go away. Then God out of His grace, makes even his liberation appear to be dull and tasteless (phikka), and bestows on the aspirant, His uninterrupted and infinite love (antaras).

It is a rule that the pleasure that is attained from attraction for an object that same pleasure is not attained on knowing that object. Just like the pleasure that is attained from the attraction for money (greed), that same pleasure is not attained on knowing that thing called money.

In karmayog (Discipline of Selfless Service), on servering relations with the world, one attains peace and joy. In Jnanayog (Discipline of Knowledge), on realizing one's essential Self, one attains uninterrupted joy. In Bhaktiyog (Discipline of Devotion) where there is attraction for God, one attains infinite and ever increasing bliss and divine love.

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II 7:2 II

Sri Bhagavân uvâca:

Jnâanam te'ham savijnânamidam vaksyâmyasesatah

Yajjnâtvâ neha bhuyo'nyajjnâtavyaamavasissyate (Gita 7:2)

I shall unfold to you in full, this knowledge (jnana) along with secrets of manifest Divinity, having known which nothing more remains to be known.

Comment

Both "Para" (higher nature) and "Apara Prakriti" (lower nature) have no independent existence of their own. This is knowledge (jnana), and knowing that Para (higher nature) and Apara (lower nature), all else is only God, is "vijnana" (real knowledge of manifest Divinity). Therefore all including "ego" (aham) is only God - this is "jnana" with "vijnana" (knowledge with realization of manifest Divinity) i.e. the secret of divine manifestation. After having realized this knowledge, nothing else is worth knowing; because everything is only God. After knowing this, if there is anything that remains to be known, then that too will be God.

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[gita-talk] Re: Please Help ! Family Issues !

 

I am age 28 ... I am depressed with my Husband and his family... Now I want to leave... I need your help... I don't want to leave my father and mother...
I join your organization and need your support

So Plz help me..
D K

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Shree Hari Ram Ram

Please listen to ADVICE PERTAINING TO WOMEN (IN ENGLISH) based on Swamiji's lecture -

ADVICE PERTAINING TO WOMEN
http://swamiramsukhdasji.net/Audio/Audio_Advice_Pertaining_to_Women_Main.htm

Please read the following general advice from Swamiji's lectures -

Benefits of Renouncing Desires and Fulfilling Duties
http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.net/eBooks/Benefits-of-Renouncing-Desires-and-Fulfilling-Duties-v2.pdf

You may also read and gain from previous related discussions -

Advice Sought for Troubled Marriage
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3571

On Being a Chaste Wife - to be Married Soon ! Seeking Advice!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/4066

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Repeating the same advice :
Listen to God within you [this is different from self-talk or auto-suggestion] from where you can ever get BEST WORDS TO FOLLOW.
Now secondary to it : Every distress or trouble is sent to us (by God) for our good only. Visualise it as inspiration for efforts to be made BY YOU for better life rather than as misfortune or bad things. Kunti prayed for it.
Please don't wash your dirty linen in public but offer them to the very source from where they come.
So be it.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.

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I would like to help you by saying one thing which lord says you do your duty and don't expect the results. can you make a note of what you do and see if there is anything that you should do to help your self before thinig and asking others to do the way they should act or do what you want them to do.
be honest to yourself I will try to help you.
Mahendra

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Dear Sadhka,
As the information provided is very limited but has all the ingredients to understand.
You must not take action under duress and haste. But look every aspect of your present and future obligations and first and foremost your Dharma. God always instructed that a human must understand, practice : Love, peace , truth, right conduct and Non violence with Service and surrender attitude. Put all these values in your decision making process. priortize. And think intelligently and weigh with pro and cons of each action you are going to take, If you are able to realize that this life is not permanent and a human body in physical form is given to fulfill a divine purpose at a minimum to serve the other human. Once you take any decision you are responsible for the result. You may talk to some one who is matured, trustworthy and is unbias. The life is a challenge, so face it with a big smile and positive attitude. Life is also Love. Life is how you wish to steer. Life is full of service to others. Life is filled with humility and humbleness. Life is full of compassion, Life is filled with a positive bubbling energy.

One should never ignore own mother father as you are the part of them. But also you have to lead a life. Whatever decision you are going to take will have two options. You set the priority and take the the decision. You and the God are the only knowledgeable persons of the situation and no other will be able to judge better than you.

These are the few words which I can put here for you to digest and act.
May God bless, guide and inspire you take the best option He may have for you.

With Love and Regards
Kamlesh
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Dear DK,

Ur problem is described in too brief and one cannot give any meaningful advice till the details are known, or wheat led to this situation. Do not run away from the problems. You leave one and the second would be waiting its turn. Face them squarely and deal with them with a detached mind, while coming toa conclusion.

Best of luck in your decision making,

BKK

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You are not happy with your husbands because of their behavior or you just feel stranger in that house ,if it is then it is passing phase .

In arrange marriages most of the girl go through this phase .

It is better to tell your husband your insecurities and i think he will understand but if they are treating you ill then talk to your parent and do what you think is correct.
Aruna Singh

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Jai Siya Ram

It depends on what is important to you. According to Gita, TITIKSHAA is very important for a Sadhak -

Please read these Self-discipline traits
- Quietitude,
- Self-control; Sama is detaching the mind from sense objects and Dama is moving the five sense organs away from sense objects,
- Shraddha - Having complete and perfect faith and utmost sentiments and belief in God and Scriptures, that is greater than belief and faith in anything else (shraddha),
- Uparaati - indifference or a condition where - one's natural tendencies move away from worldly life (uparaati),
- Titiksha - Forebearance or remaining tolerant in all pairs of
opposites including heat and cold and remaining unaffected(titiksha), and becoming doubt-free or having no doubts internally (samaadhaan)

It seems that these will be better achieved through staying in the current situation that God has placed you in.

Sarita

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I do not know what your troubles are, but I wish you all the very best.
You may pick up any name of God and try to chant it as often as possible.
Best regards.

Atul Save

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-Shree Hari-

Namaste!

Dear DK,

Your post is too brief, you must expand it some so as the Sadhaks can
form a balanced opinion, and thus give a purposeful comment. One cannot
best guess your situation, so please give more that we might give more.

Are you clinically depressed, needing treatment, or are you in an
intolerable situation, and what of your parents?

There is a lot of wisdom available so please to help yourself, help us!

Om ... Shant ...

Mike.
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Hi!
I am seeing this e-mail 3rd tim ein my box which is inspiring me to reply u. Actually , none of us aware of the issue but the statement shows that the sadhak can not leave her own parents. So..Ofcourse why she has to leave her own parents and for what? It means that she has been force or getting any sort of uneasy treatment for keeping realtion with parents which si very very common all over the world ( specially in India it is too much or I can say that percentage or intensity is high). She may be only a child or she might be seeing that the care has been taken her in proper way ( what ever the way sh eis struggling to take care of her parents sh eknows better). why she would leave them?....Of course not...I am not sure what si the problem n where n for what she has to leave the parents? Or if anybody is forcing her to leave the parents then its absolutelyyyyyyyyyyy incorrect n injustisce. According to my strong opinion she should not leave her parents because Bhagwan has becmme GOd Vitthal due to seva /or I can say seva made him GOD Vitthal.
IN Bhagwat geeta...Chapter no...
Arjun asks: Dahrma duvudha mein Dharma kya hai...kaise sahi aur galat ko pehachane..?
Krishna says: Duvidha mein tumhe attman ko dekhate huye dharm ako sthapit karna hoga?
For ex: krishna says..jaise ki ek gaon mein ek putra k apita aakhri sas le rahah ho aur use jal chhaiye/ ganagjal usake mein dena hoga aur usi gaon mein usake samane kisi ek ladaki ki ijjat ja rahi ho to us samya usaka kya dharm hai... Partha??
Krishna him self answered in san skrit.... : Na hanyate..
Atman na marati hai na mari jati hai, wo ek vastra badal kar dusare vastra ko pehan leti hai..
Isis prakar yahan agar yeh putra agar is gaon ke gunde ko jo ladaki ijjat le raha ho use marn bhi pade to use shastra uthan hoga kyonki yeh bhi dharma ke liye shastra uthaya gaya hai..
Agar wo pita ko jal dede ya gunde ki jan lele to dono jiwon ko marna hai parantu aatma to nahi marne wali partha isliye shastra uthao aur yudh lke liy etaiyar ho jao..yahan dono hi case mein dharm ki ladai ya sthapna hai..

So in thsi way if thsi i sthe ladai/ struggle or issue is for parents then u dont have to leave them at a same tim edont sign on any ppaer to divorce him...because I guess ( after looking at the sttaement) here the fighting is not for getting another husband or in laws ( the statement says that I cant leave my parent and I am understress of in laws)..Let the inlaws do their karmas ( unhe jo karm a unak epichale janam se mil rahah hai wo jo buddhi de rahi hai ya to koi wo naya kram kar rahe hai jo kisi ko mansik taklif d ho rahi hai..yeh bhagwan jane)..but dono sentence yeh batate hai ki wo streess hai aur parents ko chod nahi sakti ....bilkul nahi chodhana unako jis tarike se khayal rakh sako jaroor rakhna but yahan par bhi divorce mat den aaur koi paper shai mat karn a.. yeh sab pata nahi ishwar ki maya ya koi karm ahai..kaunse karm hai yeh to nahi keh sakte ....Yeh ishwar p echod do but parents k akhyal rakho kyonki jo keh rahe honge ki parents ko vchodo ya jo stress mein rakh rah ehong eunako pehale man ki shnati mile isliye unako unako rasta lene do unak esath raho aur unak edabav mein hindu mein divorce nam ki chij nahi hai man ki shnati ke liy elaw banay gya hai ( na hi ramayn mein hai na hi kahi aur ki divorvce ke barein likha hai)..balki yeh jaroor hai ki rsihi muni ki y abhagwan ki ashirwda se kram , jap tap pure huye to jo wan mein chali jati thi tapsya k eliye wo wapas aajati hai usi parkar seva se ( wo bhi ma aur bab aki seva se sab thik hi hoga...agar wo isase vanchit karate hai to unhe hi isaka/ ya yeh sochane ki opportunity di jai)..
Shanti hi chahiye har jagah se ..tum stresss na lo ..mantra jap karati raho aur galat baat at suno ..

TC ! Hari OM..
Soch smajh ke rai leke ma babba sabhi ke bhalai hi chhate hai to unaki bhi baat pe socho ..aur unak bhi , apan bhi kahyal rakho...

Mujhe phone number do to shayd call sakun tumhe...
Lord Krishna bahot hi mulayam hrdaya k ehai..jald sunate hai.. jald hi jwab dete hai..unase bhi bat karo
antar man se !
Shayad mera guessing galat bhi ho ..phir bhi likha kyonki mein yeh e-mail third time dekh rahi hun..every date pe ki mere inbox mein aarah ahi..
jawab dena jaroor..
TC

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please think and act . Dont act and think. In all family issues will be there,. You ignore your bad thoughts, use your intulluct, take advice from elder people from your family. Every problom there is a solution, find the solution and stay with your husband & family, all the best.

Shelley Kakkadan
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What support you want.
give ur contact details
"mallari kulkarni"

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A gem of an observation from the humble Sadhaka:

"Whatever fault 'we' observe in the 'other', it actually lies within 'us' and by
observing it in the 'other', 'we' only strengthen it, nothing else."
If 'we' stop observing fault in the 'other' and start finding the very cause of
its existence, NEVER FAILING GOD provides the remedy (silently from within) and
if you DON'T CONSIDER YOURSELF MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE VOICE FROM WITHIN, you
will be able to handle the situation surprisingly in an easy way.

SO IS IT.

Yada sarve prabhidyante hridayasyeha granthayah |
Atha martyo'amrito bhavati etaavadhyanushaasanam ||

Respects.

Naga Narayana.

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It is up to you to believe or not, but as per Swameejee,
"Whatever fault 'we' observe in the 'other', it actually lies within 'us' and by observing it in the 'other', 'we' only strengthen it, nothing else."
If 'we' stop observing fault in the 'other' and start finding the very cause of its existence, NEVER FAILING GOD provides the remedy (silently from within) and if you DON'T CONSIDER YOURSELF MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE VOICE FROM WITHIN, you will be able to handle the situation surprisingly in an easy way.
So be it.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.

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Dear Sadhika,
It is not clear why do you want to leave ? What makes you depressed ? without knowing reasonable details, no one can provide any solution.
Love,
Sadhna
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Dear Gita-Talk member,

Please pray to God in your "thinking and imagination" and
God will respond to you in helpful ways. He has done to me
and he will the same to you. God bless you!

AV

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dear dk,

I did respond to this request earlier; but felt like reminding you. You are 28, I am 68, My younger daughter is 35. The truth of the world is no two human beings are completely compatible. You gave me your age; but not your academic profile. What have you studied - I do not mean your degrees. have you studied life with many of its perspectives. .....I can not feel the way you suffer. The first thing you have to do is behave with self confidence and self respect. That is dignity or Atma Nirbharata.

I wish you all happiness my child, God Bless you
krishna

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Ravibabu(Sh.Rabinder Nath Tagore) has said it somewhere in his poetry.'The tense bow whispers to th arrow,your freedom is mine'.But it should be taken as the last step.There is lot in relationship management and it is always best to repair.
subhashtewari

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it is a very personal question ,i think you are in the situation as `tthat you and you alone have to decide .indian women usually suffer bon many grounds if your parents are with you and your decision may be you can take a chance to start your life once again.it is all having guts to live or not to live with such . people .there would always be a MAY BE again it is destiny .
jai shri krishna

Chaman Nigam
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Pray (daily) to God to help you & guide you
then
do whatever your inner voice tells you
God will take care
HariBol
"Badri"

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Dear D. K. Namaste!

I cannot understand this question clearly. You may want to explain more as to why you are depressed, and why do you want to leave your husband and family? Isn't his family now your family too? So, before we can help I think it is necessary for you to let us know what is the problem? You may be seeing a problem where none may exist!
On the meantme, dear D.K. please stop thinking negatively and look within yourself to see where problem lies! Be courageous to face situations righteously acknowledging your own mistakes if there are!

Pray often during the day to God to give you courage to be honest with yourself first!
Go to Temple, talk to someone elder you trust the most, and who knows both you and the family! God works through you and people in such situations if you see your own faults, if any! Don't run away from the situation you face!!!
Arjuna was also running away from the responsibility, wasn't he? Krishna advised him on the battlefield and he understood and fought a just war! Be like Arjuna!
May God bless you!
Namaskar..............Pratap Bhatt

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Dear Ms. DK
Pranaam. You have made two decisions. Leaving your marital home and not giving up parents. What is the help you are seeking?
Veena

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Dear sadaks,
a husband is not husband when he fails to adhere to Purusha Neethi. Sri Rama teachings, King Dasaratha teaching are there. What DK is asking is not clear. From whom she wants help? If she wants to join Gita Group, then No deed to post to members. Can I be useful?
B.Sathyanarayan

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Escaping is no solution. the best way to face fear is to Face IT.
You need to talk to someone who is close to you. You can trust and wont misuse you. Break in Communication is mostly the problem in relationships.. work on that.
May you be guided well.

ak

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These things are common nowadays. After marriage disenchantment steps in. If you don't want to leave your parents then take them into confidence. In my opionion, it is better to go back to them than be trapped in an unhappy marriage for life.
Hari Shanker Deo

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hello DK,

If you two are not compatible, and if you believe you can survive and live happily without him then according to me, leave. I feel it is much better than submitting your self, body and soul to a male with whom you are not compatible. BUT you have to think and decide. Live your life.
Krishna

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[gita-talk] Re: Mine-ness (my very own) with the Lord- What is exact concept? and More ....

 

Namaste,
This was posted-((• Love of God, cannot be attained through
sacrifices, austerities, visiting holy places etc. rather it happens
only on having an undivided feeling of "mine-ness" (my very own) with
the Lord.))
1.What is the purpose of sacrifices, austerities, visiting holy places
etc? There is a purpose.
2. mine-ness" (my very own) with the Lord- What is exact concept?
Just for clarity and not for any other reason I put these Questions?
B.Sathyanarayan

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Shree Hari Ram Ram

Please contemplate on these shlokas -

"Sab mama priya, sab mama upajaaye" (Manas, Utter. 86/4)
"Ishvar ansh jeev abinaasi" (Manas. Utter. 117/2)
"Mamaivaaansho jeevaloke" (Gita 15/7)
"Sanmukh hoyi jeev mohi jabhin; Janma koti agh naasahin tabhin ||

Now what concept is needed? What clarity is needed? What clarity does a child need to know his mother? What concept is needed for a wife to accept her husband and to know she is married?

We are only God's and only God is our very own, whether we believe (accept) it or not !

Gita clarifies - NOTHING ELSE IS OURS
They are only regarded as ours due to egoism (sense of I-ness)

Nirmamoha nirahankaarah sa shaantimadigacchyati (Gita 2/71)
Ahankaaram balam darpan, kamam krodham parigraham |
Vimuchyanirmamah shaanto, Brahmabhooyaaya kalpate (Gita 18/53)
Nirmamoha Nirahankaarah, samadukhah kshami (Gita 12/13

Saroj
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Dear sadaks,
Karma is divided into parts to understand better by humans. Kaayaka Karma- That which is done by body. Maanasha Karma- Another is by thought process, Sanchata Karma, Prarabhda Karma , Akarma & Vikarma etc. To put shirt-Need to move your hands etc and dress. To eat - need your hands- or someone to feed. To go to next door, need to walk. All these are effected at once like - dressed, hunger gone, met someone next door.Working for a month you get salary on 1st . But by going to temple, doing pooja, singing song of God, etc the effect is not got easily but even after next birth. Why?
2. God is Omnipresent- HE abides in non living and living. HE is for everybody and for everything. GOD is also for me, but NOT exclusively for for me. As in the case of Radha thinking- HE was exclusively for her. Sri Krishna abandoned her. Droupathi is close to Sri Krishna. "Govinda" the call was enough to save her from disrobing. First of all why disrobing, if HE was with her? The Gopika Chintayanthi got Moksha from her door step even without seeing Sri Krishna. GOD was certainly with both of them- But how GOD is in everybody but not felt- is my question?
This is only for sadaks to create deep love for GOD is my question?
B.Sathyanarayan

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TWO fundamental concepts run along these questions - Yagnya and Daana or Abhyaasa and Vairaagya from Bhagavadgita's perspective.

1.What is the purpose of sacrifices, austerities, visiting holy places etc? There is a purpose.

This is the Yagnya or Abhyaasa part. The purpose of all the prescribed forms Upaasanaas is to educate the performer of the reality of not being a performer in the first place. The purpose is to train the fellow NOT TO DEVELOP any notions of ownership (in actions, thoughts as well as experiences) in the process. One needs to practice (Abhyaasa) such behavioral correction to remove the imbibed inertia to insist for ownership in every activity. That is why Yagnya (the activity percieved as being carried out by its own synergy) starts with throwing some useless twigs into fire. It teaches two things to the seeker: (a) Everything is devoured by the time just like the twig by the fire; (b) In-spite of being devoured by the fire, everything remain the same - matter as wel las energy is conserved - from a global perspective; (c) anything in life is actually as useful or useless as the twig as such! One who sees THE TRUTH that unifies everything can never percieve misery around:

Yastu sarvaaNi bhootaani aatmanyevaanpashyate |

Sarvabhooteshu chaatmaanam tato na vijugupsate ||

2. mine-ness" (my very own) with the Lord- What is exact concept?

This is the Daana or Vairaagya part. The purpose is to contemplate the Yagnya practiced within … to burn down all the Vaasanaas (emotional inertia and notional ignorance) embedded in one's very attitudes from within. Obviously one ends up questioning the Mine-ness developed toward the two (emotions and ignorance) and the I-ness (authority developed over the belief). As one starts examining the notions within with the precision of a Yagnya, the Agni within starts glowing brighter and brighter mitigating the darkness of ignorance within and obliterating the bonds of inertia binding one from within. As the I-ness and Mine-ness are being burnt down, the fellow that IS starts occupying the same arena that ignorance had covered earlier and inertia had prohimibited the fellow to witness th same. As the duo of I-ness and Mine-ness diminish from within, THE FELLOW that everything IS alone remains within as well as around. How can any emotional delusions of joy and misery enter the fellow who have atained unity with THE ONE as such?!

Yasmin sarvaaNi bhootaani aatmaivaabhoodvijaanate |

Tatra ko mohah kah shokah ekatvamanupashyatah ||

"The true Mine-ness with The Lord" is nothing but the terminal obliteration of the I-ness from within and Mine-ness around one's existence.

|| Sarvam khalu idam Brahmaa | Vaasudevah sarvamiti ||

Respects.

Naga Narayana.

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Sadhak says :
God is not physical, therefore your activities need
to be focused non-physical: for example, "throw all your
physical thoughts" away and "pray in your thinking"
will be a very strong and a good way to start your new journey.
Sadhak wants to establish existence of things (Physical World) other than GOD and as such accepting "All is NOT God."
Sadhak please don't try that is NOT (won't happen as never happened).
Swamijee says,"All actions and non-actions (not doing action) are prakrutistha (situated in Nature) and your throwing away physical thoughts is also the same.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.

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Saadhaka asked :
1.What is the purpose of sacrifices, austerities, visiting holy places
etc? There is a purpose.
Answer : The ONLY purpose is to enable one live in ''mine-ness'' with the Lord.
2. mine-ness" (my very own) with the Lord- What is exact concept?
Answer : This is no concept or idea or theory or thought for any action. This is the very essence that ''we are Lord's ONLY". Every other relationship is secondary and not eternal.
So be it.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.

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Dear Gita-Talk member,

It is because, you are doing all these things are "physical".
God is not physical, therefore your activities need
to be focused non-physical: for example, "throw all your
physical thoughts" away and "pray in your thinking"
will be a very strong and a good way to start your new journey.

Good Luck! Bye.
Notesh Otes

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very nice question .such thoughts come to every body but then either we are carried away by our religious feelings or sometimes we beg to god for something .so the one-ness with god goes to the backseat of brain and we remain involved in our day to day life .jai shree krishna

Chaman Nigam

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Tuesday, November 29, 2011

[gita-talk] Space/Vacuum is not empty.

 

Hari SharaNam,

A recent news on Science said "Scientists claim to have produced particles of light out of vacuum, proving that space is not empty." The news can be found on the internet by using the search key "There's no such thing as empty space" on google.
Please express your views regarding this scientific claim.

May all be blessed!
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[gita-talk] Re: Who is it that is satisfied with the minimum and remembers us till the last?

 

We often go after the society and the family to satisfy them with something or other, but end up with a situation that they were satisfied for a short time and later forgot what we had done. But there is some one who gets fully satisfied with minimum and remembers us till the last. Who is it?
B.Sathyanarayan

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Sadhak says :
that is GOD alone and God that is with us till our last breath.
Sadhak please confirm what you say. God is WITH us EVER and NOT till last breath (of body) as NOTHING exists that is NOT God. [Gita 7 :19].
Humbly,
Saadhaka.

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Sri Chaman nigam, Posting
((that is GOD alone and god that is with us till our last breath .we may remember HIM or not but he never forgets us may be sometimes we are not happy with HIS decisions but if we believe in rebirth we get to the conclusion what we had done we are getting .jai shree krishna))
Small change in it." Certainly HE is until last breath- If HE quits- next second -Savam. It is not "We may remember HIM"- We do remember HIM always- faith. HE is not the decider Sir, your Karma is the deciding factor. For having sent arrow by Sri Rama behind tree to Vaali- HE (Sri Krishna) was hit by arrow by the same Vaali (but in new body- called Jara). Sir, absolutely wrong concept, "we believe in rebirth we get to the conclusion what we had done we are getting". Where come this loss of faith when Sri Krishna has promised, " Surrender to me (God) and I (God) shall give you moksha in this same birth". My pure opinion- I am doing everything as in case of normal human- knowingly doing mistakes- But I tell Sri Krishna daily 3 times- I do not know anything of my past- present and future- But I 100% know I am reaching your lotus feet by the end of this birth. It is YOUR responsibility. Make me suffer- give me happiness- cut my relationship with family or friend- make me poor- do what YOU want- I understand I was doing all these rubbish over several birth- and had so many friend- wives- children etc -But OH MY dear SRI KRISHNA now I know you- I dont know sastras, proper pooja, etc but please let me not forget you any moment- I am certain YOU will come that breath time- like YOU came to Narayana Battar, Namadev, Ramadoos, prostitute Jeevanthi, like Ajamilan bad man, Gajendran etc, I am still worst than them- But YOU are Karuniya ROOPA and I remember the promise you said that in this same birth YOU will take me- I can only lift my arms and say Namaste- "" Namo Vishnuve Vasudevaya Thubyam,- Namo Narashiha Swaroopa Thubyam, Namak Kaala roopya Samhara Krithe, Namaste Varahaya Buyo Namastre. Namaste Jaganatha Visnur Namaste, Namaste Gaja Chakrapani Namaste, Namaste Prapannar Harim Namaste, Samasthaapradhasm Sasmaswagi Lesha" Sadaks- please forgive me, If I am wrong.
B.Sathyanarayan

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Remembrance … till the end … GOD
Again, I understand the well-known answer expected here is "GOD"!
Memory IS ESSENTIAL only to support the cognitive mechanism. Accordingly, remembrance is essential to percieve in contrast against some previous experiences as remembered (Smrithi) to appreciate the current experience (Anubhava). Obviously, the memory ought to be bound by the two delimiters just like its client, cognition - inception (the objective/circumstantial parameters that generated the experience) and conclusion (the subjective/emotional understanding that encompassed the experience).
Therefore, remembrance ought to be preceded by something - an circumstantial incidence associated with an emotional response from within! An incidence is verily preceded by many things around - infinitude of cause-effect chains confluencing onto the incidence!! A memory is verily preceded by many things within - infinitude of emotional impressions projected onto the experience!!! Thus remembrance is preceded by an infinitude of its own ghosts peering out from the past ... as such it can remain merely a phantom captive within one's own cognitve skills and capabilities ...
AND ... any experience is just a point in a pointless grid of its siblings all through the memory jumbled within one's cellular mosaic!!!!
Just like any other cognitive entity, remembrance is also bound to one such point-less point in the bound-less grid of memorial impressions captive within the existential elements scattered in their own infinite grid over the universe. Any experiential element such as remembrance, therefore, cannot be transferred from one point to its very neighboring point ... how can it ever transmute the infinitude of the grid and encompass the same to be the answer that is expected here?????!!!!!
To summarize, remembrance is bound by many factors:
1. It ought to be related to an earlier experience (Smrithi) related to a specific incidence.
2. It is composed by a mosaic of images drawn from one's residual memory.
3. Each image remains just an emotional trace the actual incidences.
4. It is preceded by a lapse of presence in one's active experience (Anubhava).
5. It cannot remain in one's active experience unless being recalled from the memory perpetually.
6. It proceeds into the lapse of presence in active experience eventually.
7. It requires the dual cessation - subject and object - to define itself.
Therefore, remembrance is a necessity and reality to only those who are bound to jump amongst the cognitive bounds in order to exist!
Therefore, I ought to say the very term "remembrance" is just an individual claim on an experience in an attempt to fill a non-existing void embedded within one's very memory. Remembrance can exist ONLY WHEN one digs out the images from their graveyard. It is a possibility ONLY IF and ONLY AS LONG AS one can keep drawing the supporting images from memory. Nothing other than one's claim can ever support it! Therefore, REMEMBRANCE (just like any other perception) EITHER EXISTS OR DOES NOT EXIST. It is one's temporal capability of drawing related images from one's experience (Anubhava) and memory (Smrithi) to generate and sustain the claim.
THE ONE that remains transcendental to all perceived notions and their phantoms in the backyard of memory cannot be captured by any as such. IN THAT, the very act of remembrance ceases in-spite of being active otherwise … the very perception remains within its eternal silence in-spite of rustling restlessly all the while … the very existence remains in its natural dissolution in-spite of its perpetual morphing into its own apparent variances …
Respects.
Naga Narayana.

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Dear Sadaks,
Simply superb to all and to Mr.Prasad. sadaks are just NOT reading Bagavath Geetha, but deeply embedding with thought, "Patram, Puspam, Palam,Thoyam"
This sloka is prasad to all of us. (Yo me bhaktya prayacchati Tadaham bhakty upahrutam) Sadaks Please elaborate the meaning.
Asnami prayatatmanah. "Second: If God with all of us gets satisfied, then there is greed, anger etc to many. Will not God guide them instead they remain with bad in character. Sri Hari Shanker Deo- That someone is GOD, Then why that GOD accepts the offerings only from people like Sri Ragavendra, Namadev, Kannapa? Sri Pratap Bhatt- Body mechanism as per Kapila Geetha is designed by our Karmas and time framed.(Birth time based on stars- death time based on stars) Sri Krishna and Sri Rama also choose time of birth. In Vasita Geetha Sri Vasista tells Sri rama that one Sri Krishna will be born and tell a person Arjuna Geetha. We humans all have enormous power and brain to know our past births and our day of leaving this earth. Example: Namadev was predicted that he will be born on particular star as Tukaram. Sri Krishna tells his mother Yasodha that she will be born as Baguda Mala and HE will appear as Venkataramana. Srimath Bagavath says, that Sri Vishnu will come as Kalki to the parents (Names I dont remember) on a perticular day and time. On earth time frame is very important and it is law of GOD. That is why though Sri Krishna was GOD, he studied under Guru Sandipar and learnt 63 arts in 63 days. Here also time frame. HE could have learnt in 10 days. There is a law in Upanashid to learn a art a day. Sri Krishna never oversees the rules. But before the time fixed for death, a person kills himself, remains on earth with enormous sufferings. Example Gokarn brother and so many. So body mechanism is prefixed with breathing, diseases etc. Only rare persons like Markandeya over comes this time frame. A farmer over came death by Bagavan Shiva grace. Chirst time of birth was predicted long before to Kairos. Christ crusification was predetermined. It is package delivered by GOD and GOD remains only as Sri Vishnu in the size of thumb finger in vacuum cell near the heart. So HE does not decide to stop breath for suicidal person. HE remains witness and gives freedom.
B.Sathyanarayan

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that is GOD alone and god that is with us till our last breath .we may remember HIM or not but he never forgets us may be sometimes we are not happy with HIS decisions but if we believe in rebirth we get to the conclusion what we had done we are getting .jai shree krishna
Chaman nigam

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Dear Sadaks,
Sri Krishna is satisfied- with Pathram, Pusham, Palam, Thoyam. Certainly we all know about well. But we dont understand, When Namadev, Kannapar, Sri Ragvendra (When in Childhood), Sri Ekanath, Vithura (Gave Plaintain fruit) and they gave may be water or a fruit or nothing was given by Baktha Gora, HE appeared or taken the offerings. My question is where we miss and what we miss so that our offerings are (Though God accepts manashigamly) it is not taken directly by GOD.
The first part of question- We run, sacrifice, etc to known ones who forget the help (Though not given with expectation), but unrecognizable (Just 2 tears- our heart quenching with love just for 5 seconds in the span of a year) God remembers it and looks forward when this soul can be put in right path, with a Sat Guru, Sat Sangh etc. What is need for Sri Krishna to drink the poison of Meera/Prahalad/Neelakandar etc?
B.Sathyanarayan

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Every Being other than God can never be satisfied eternally with any thing, any action or whatever human can conceive in mind as all that (thing, action or whatever) is impermanent.
So be it.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.

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Shree Hari

God does not have the strength to leave us and to stay apart from us. The day that God leaves us and stays apart from us, that day we become a separate God. There will be two Gods, which is not possible. God cannot simply leave us, till the very end. God never separates from us. He is incapable of separating from us. God is omnipresent, All Pervasive. God is entirely present in all the places, time, things and men, thus how can God leave us? If God leaves us, then how can God be called omnipresent? We cannot live by leaving God. If we live, we shall live in God. If we do not live in Him, then too we will live in Him. If we are born, we will live in Him, if we die then too we will live in him and if we attain salvation (go beyond
birth and death) then too we shall live in Him. We cannot live without Him, neither can He live without us. (from Eternal Union with God by Swami Ramsukhdasji)
Ram Ram

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Dear Gita-Talk member,

It will be so little effort to "pray in your thinking" after
you have "thrown all your physical thoughts away" and that
God will be satisfied by your action. If you do the same
for long enough time (how much, depends on your karma),
you may begin to get "bells and whistles" from God. This
is so powerful.

Good Luck. Bye.

Notesh Otes

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Hari SharaNam,

I do appreciate the second part of the question (i.e. who gets satsified ..) which is already answered by our divine friends but I am having difficulty in understanding the first part of the question although it is asked by many including my wife.

In my understanding, Blessed are those who can not even remember the helps/services, howsoever great might be in people's eyes, performed for the benefits of the family, relatives, friends, socity, country, world through their bodies/instruments provided by the Supreme. If something is to be remembered, it is the Supreme who remembers/knows everything within and beyond the time.

VEDAAHAM SAMTEETAANI VARTAMAANAANI CHAARJUN |
BHAVISHYAANI CHA BHOOTAANI MAAM TU VEDA NA KASCHAN || (GitaJi - 7/26).

May all be blessed!
Niteesh Dubey

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Satisfaction ... minimal satisfaction ... GOD

I understand that our Satyanarayan wants a well-known answer "GOD" to his quiz!

Satisfaction is not a continuous function to have a definitive minimum :).

Satisfaction ought to be preceded by something - dissatisfaction !

Dissatisfaction is verily preceded by something else - lack of something !!

Lack of anything requires another precedent - want for that thing !!!

Want for any thing can proceed from only one thing - awareness of that thing !!!!

Of course, as for anything else, something always precedes an awarensss - existence !!!!!

AND ... any existence is just a point in a pointless grid of its siblings all through this universe !!!!!!

Therefore, just like any othr emotional notion, satisfaction is also bound to one such point-less point in the universal grid of existence. Eny existential element such as satisfaction, therefore, cannot be transferred from one point to its very neighboring point ... how can it ever transmute the infinitude of the grid and enompass the same to be the answer that you want?????!!!!!

Therefore, I ought to say the very term "satisfaction" is a figment of one's imagination to fill a non-existing void embedded within one's very delusion. Therefore, SATISFACTION (just like any other notion) EITHER EXISTS OR DOES NOT EXIST. It is one's temporal state of acceptance or rejection. The very existence of satisfaction sounds so delusional ... its variance - whether minimal or maximal - ought to be more delusional ...

THE ONE that remains transcendental to all perceived notions such as satisfaction cannot be measured by any as such ...

Therefore, I beg the withdrawal of the very quiz Satyanarayanji :).

Respects.

Naga Narayana.

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Dear Sadaks!
Namaskar!

Most of the Sadaks say that God is satisfied with minimum and remembers us till the end. The problem with this answer is that God is a term which most of us have not been able to conceive and grasp well! Still at times, people mostly wonder whether God exists at all or not! Yes, hypothetically Patram Pushpam Falam Toyam.... can be the best possible answer!

But, if you analyze with YOUR TRUE SELF about which you have no doubt or least doubt for its existence then, the better answer could be the stage of your own self after going beyond your BODY & MIND. In that stage, though you would continue to have MIND but, it would be a balanced and satisfied one with and without, within and outside!!! Conclusively therefore, it is the "TRUE YOU" of your own self, who is satisfied even without minimum what to speak of with minimum and is conscious of you, remembers you and also takes care of you self!!!! .

THAT TRUE YOU of you COULD BE GIVEN A NAME AS GOD!

Regards!
Kuldeep Kumar Kaul

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Dear Sadhakas,
Hare Krishna.
This is in response to a question from a Sadhaka.
Lord Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita,
" Patram Pushpam Phalam toyam
Yo me bhaktya prayacchati
Tadaham bhakty upahrutam
Asnami prayatatmanah. "
( Gitaji 9, 26)
Which means,
' If one offers with devotion, a leaf, flower, fruit, or water, I accept. '
If we offer with devotion, Lord accepts it how ever small it may be.
If we serve Him with total surrender, then He stays with us till the end and beyond.
Thank you.
Prasad.A.Iragavarapu, MD

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But there is some one who gets fully satisfied with minimum and remembers us till the last. Who is it?
Answer is : The GOD within every living being including yourself.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.
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That someone is God.
Hari Shanker Deo
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Dear Sadhakas, Namaste!
Simple answer to the question by our dear SathyanarayanJi, is: God is satisfied with minimum as stated in Gita (patram phalam pushpa toyam,,,,) and does take care of us as body-mind organism till last breath! It is His body only and He is breathing as long as He likes to do so and then quits!
However, why should we expect from family, society, or so-called "others"? Gita says to do the best for them, use the body-mind as tool to serve, and serve only in the spirit of Karma-Yoga! If you don't do your duty then it is your problem, if they are not happy or satisfied with it, it is their problem! Draw them to Gita or scriptures, satsangs, that is all one can do!
When you serve them you are serving God only, this is minimum God can be happy!

Another point is whatever you do for them through objects of this world, it will always be temporary satisfaction to them as well as to you too! It is the nature of all objects being limited, can only give limited satisfaction. Knowing this truth you can use the objects of the world without getting attached to them, so the satisfaction doesn't depend upon them beyond minimum use!
Namaskar..............Pratap Bhatt

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possibly, you are driving to the Sloka
PATRAM PUSHPAM PHALAM TOYAM YO ME BHAKTYAA PRAYACHCHATI
TAT AHAM BHAKTI UPAHRITAM ASNAAMI PRAYATAATMANAH
Paramaatma is the one being that is satisfied not with minmum but nothing. Anyone whose wants are none is satisfied with less than nothing. His pleasure is happiness joy and bliss
krishna

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very true ,most of us have had such experiences and are helpless .,we really don't know what to do .we just keep on living like that .and at times get depressed .jai shri krishnaÂ
Chaman nigam

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[gita-talk] Re: Please Help ! Family Issues !

 

I am age 28 ... I am depressed with my Husband and his family... Now I want to leave... I need your help... I don't want to leave my father and mother...
I join your organization and need your support

So Plz help me..
D K

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Please listen to ADVICE PERTAINING TO WOMEN (IN ENGLISH) based on Swamiji's lecture -

ADVICE PERTAINING TO WOMEN
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Benefits of Renouncing Desires and Fulfilling Duties
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Jai Siya Ram

It depends on what is important to you. According to Gita, TITIKSHAA is very important for a Sadhak -

Please read these Self-discipline traits
- Quietitude,
- Self-control; Sama is detaching the mind from sense objects and Dama is moving the five sense organs away from sense objects,
- Shraddha - Having complete and perfect faith and utmost sentiments and belief in God and Scriptures, that is greater than belief and faith in anything else (shraddha),
- Uparaati - indifference or a condition where - one's natural tendencies move away from worldly life (uparaati),
- Titiksha - Forebearance or remaining tolerant in all pairs of
opposites including heat and cold and remaining unaffected(titiksha), and becoming doubt-free or having no doubts internally (samaadhaan)

It seems that these will be better achieved through staying in the current situation that God has placed you in.

Sarita


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I do not know what your troubles are, but I wish you all the very best.
You may pick up any name of God and try to chant it as often as possible.
Best regards.

Atul Save

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-Shree Hari-

Namaste!

Dear DK,

Your post is too brief, you must expand it some so as the Sadhaks can
form a balanced opinion, and thus give a purposeful comment. One cannot
best guess your situation, so please give more that we might give more.

Are you clinically depressed, needing treatment, or are you in an
intolerable situation, and what of your parents?

There is a lot of wisdom available so please to help yourself, help us!

Om ... Shant ...

Mike.
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Hi!
I am seeing this e-mail 3rd tim ein my box which is inspiring me to reply u. Actually , none of us aware of the issue but the statement shows that the sadhak can not leave her own parents. So..Ofcourse why she has to leave her own parents and for what? It means that she has been force or getting any sort of uneasy treatment for keeping realtion with parents which si very very common all over the world ( specially in India it is too much or I can say that percentage or intensity is high). She may be only a child or she might be seeing that the care has been taken her in proper way ( what ever the way sh eis struggling to take care of her parents sh eknows better). why she would leave them?....Of course not...I am not sure what si the problem n where n for what she has to leave the parents? Or if anybody is forcing her to leave the parents then its absolutelyyyyyyyyyyy incorrect n injustisce. According to my strong opinion she should not leave her parents because Bhagwan has becmme GOd Vitthal due to seva /or I can say seva made him GOD Vitthal.
IN Bhagwat geeta...Chapter no...
Arjun asks: Dahrma duvudha mein Dharma kya hai...kaise sahi aur galat ko pehachane..?
Krishna says: Duvidha mein tumhe attman ko dekhate huye dharm ako sthapit karna hoga?
For ex: krishna says..jaise ki ek gaon mein ek putra k apita aakhri sas le rahah ho aur use jal chhaiye/ ganagjal usake mein dena hoga aur usi gaon mein usake samane kisi ek ladaki ki ijjat ja rahi ho to us samya usaka kya dharm hai... Partha??
Krishna him self answered in san skrit.... : Na hanyate..
Atman na marati hai na mari jati hai, wo ek vastra badal kar dusare vastra ko pehan leti hai..
Isis prakar yahan agar yeh putra agar is gaon ke gunde ko jo ladaki ijjat le raha ho use marn bhi pade to use shastra uthan hoga kyonki yeh bhi dharma ke liye shastra uthaya gaya hai..
Agar wo pita ko jal dede ya gunde ki jan lele to dono jiwon ko marna hai parantu aatma to nahi marne wali partha isliye shastra uthao aur yudh lke liy etaiyar ho jao..yahan dono hi case mein dharm ki ladai ya sthapna hai..

So in thsi way if thsi i sthe ladai/ struggle or issue is for parents then u dont have to leave them at a same tim edont sign on any ppaer to divorce him...because I guess ( after looking at the sttaement) here the fighting is not for getting another husband or in laws ( the statement says that I cant leave my parent and I am understress of in laws)..Let the inlaws do their karmas ( unhe jo karm a unak epichale janam se mil rahah hai wo jo buddhi de rahi hai ya to koi wo naya kram kar rahe hai jo kisi ko mansik taklif d ho rahi hai..yeh bhagwan jane)..but dono sentence yeh batate hai ki wo streess hai aur parents ko chod nahi sakti ....bilkul nahi chodhana unako jis tarike se khayal rakh sako jaroor rakhna but yahan par bhi divorce mat den aaur koi paper shai mat karn a.. yeh sab pata nahi ishwar ki maya ya koi karm ahai..kaunse karm hai yeh to nahi keh sakte ....Yeh ishwar p echod do but parents k akhyal rakho kyonki jo keh rahe honge ki parents ko vchodo ya jo stress mein rakh rah ehong eunako pehale man ki shnati mile isliye unako unako rasta lene do unak esath raho aur unak edabav mein hindu mein divorce nam ki chij nahi hai man ki shnati ke liy elaw banay gya hai ( na hi ramayn mein hai na hi kahi aur ki divorvce ke barein likha hai)..balki yeh jaroor hai ki rsihi muni ki y abhagwan ki ashirwda se kram , jap tap pure huye to jo wan mein chali jati thi tapsya k eliye wo wapas aajati hai usi parkar seva se ( wo bhi ma aur bab aki seva se sab thik hi hoga...agar wo isase vanchit karate hai to unhe hi isaka/ ya yeh sochane ki opportunity di jai)..
Shanti hi chahiye har jagah se ..tum stresss na lo ..mantra jap karati raho aur galat baat at suno ..

TC ! Hari OM..
Soch smajh ke rai leke ma babba sabhi ke bhalai hi chhate hai to unaki bhi baat pe socho ..aur unak bhi , apan bhi kahyal rakho...

Mujhe phone number do to shayd call sakun tumhe...
Lord Krishna bahot hi mulayam hrdaya k ehai..jald sunate hai.. jald hi jwab dete hai..unase bhi bat karo
antar man se !
Shayad mera guessing galat bhi ho ..phir bhi likha kyonki mein yeh e-mail third time dekh rahi hun..every date pe ki mere inbox mein aarah ahi..
jawab dena jaroor..
TC

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please think and act . Dont act and think. In all family issues will be there,. You ignore your bad thoughts, use your intulluct, take advice from elder people from your family. Every problom there is a solution, find the solution and stay with your husband & family, all the best.

Shelley Kakkadan
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What support you want.
give ur contact details
"mallari kulkarni"

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A gem of an observation from the humble Sadhaka:

"Whatever fault 'we' observe in the 'other', it actually lies within 'us' and by
observing it in the 'other', 'we' only strengthen it, nothing else."
If 'we' stop observing fault in the 'other' and start finding the very cause of
its existence, NEVER FAILING GOD provides the remedy (silently from within) and
if you DON'T CONSIDER YOURSELF MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE VOICE FROM WITHIN, you
will be able to handle the situation surprisingly in an easy way.

SO IS IT.

Yada sarve prabhidyante hridayasyeha granthayah |
Atha martyo'amrito bhavati etaavadhyanushaasanam ||

Respects.

Naga Narayana.

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It is up to you to believe or not, but as per Swameejee,
"Whatever fault 'we' observe in the 'other', it actually lies within 'us' and by observing it in the 'other', 'we' only strengthen it, nothing else."
If 'we' stop observing fault in the 'other' and start finding the very cause of its existence, NEVER FAILING GOD provides the remedy (silently from within) and if you DON'T CONSIDER YOURSELF MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE VOICE FROM WITHIN, you will be able to handle the situation surprisingly in an easy way.
So be it.
Humbly,
Saadhaka.

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Dear Sadhika,
It is not clear why do you want to leave ? What makes you depressed ? without knowing reasonable details, no one can provide any solution.
Love,
Sadhna
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Dear Gita-Talk member,

Please pray to God in your "thinking and imagination" and
God will respond to you in helpful ways. He has done to me
and he will the same to you. God bless you!

AV

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dear dk,

I did respond to this request earlier; but felt like reminding you. You are 28, I am 68, My younger daughter is 35. The truth of the world is no two human beings are completely compatible. You gave me your age; but not your academic profile. What have you studied - I do not mean your degrees. have you studied life with many of its perspectives. .....I can not feel the way you suffer. The first thing you have to do is behave with self confidence and self respect. That is dignity or Atma Nirbharata.

I wish you all happiness my child, God Bless you
krishna

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Ravibabu(Sh.Rabinder Nath Tagore) has said it somewhere in his poetry.'The tense bow whispers to th arrow,your freedom is mine'.But it should be taken as the last step.There is lot in relationship management and it is always best to repair.
subhashtewari

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it is a very personal question ,i think you are in the situation as `tthat you and you alone have to decide .indian women usually suffer bon many grounds if your parents are with you and your decision may be you can take a chance to start your life once again.it is all having guts to live or not to live with such . people .there would always be a MAY BE again it is destiny .
jai shri krishna

Chaman Nigam
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Pray (daily) to God to help you & guide you
then
do whatever your inner voice tells you
God will take care
HariBol
"Badri"

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Dear D. K. Namaste!

I cannot understand this question clearly. You may want to explain more as to why you are depressed, and why do you want to leave your husband and family? Isn't his family now your family too? So, before we can help I think it is necessary for you to let us know what is the problem? You may be seeing a problem where none may exist!
On the meantme, dear D.K. please stop thinking negatively and look within yourself to see where problem lies! Be courageous to face situations righteously acknowledging your own mistakes if there are!

Pray often during the day to God to give you courage to be honest with yourself first!
Go to Temple, talk to someone elder you trust the most, and who knows both you and the family! God works through you and people in such situations if you see your own faults, if any! Don't run away from the situation you face!!!
Arjuna was also running away from the responsibility, wasn't he? Krishna advised him on the battlefield and he understood and fought a just war! Be like Arjuna!
May God bless you!
Namaskar..............Pratap Bhatt

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Dear Ms. DK
Pranaam. You have made two decisions. Leaving your marital home and not giving up parents. What is the help you are seeking?
Veena

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Dear sadaks,
a husband is not husband when he fails to adhere to Purusha Neethi. Sri Rama teachings, King Dasaratha teaching are there. What DK is asking is not clear. From whom she wants help? If she wants to join Gita Group, then No deed to post to members. Can I be useful?
B.Sathyanarayan

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Escaping is no solution. the best way to face fear is to Face IT.
You need to talk to someone who is close to you. You can trust and wont misuse you. Break in Communication is mostly the problem in relationships.. work on that.
May you be guided well.

ak

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These things are common nowadays. After marriage disenchantment steps in. If you don't want to leave your parents then take them into confidence. In my opionion, it is better to go back to them than be trapped in an unhappy marriage for life.
Hari Shanker Deo

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hello DK,

If you two are not compatible, and if you believe you can survive and live happily without him then according to me, leave. I feel it is much better than submitting your self, body and soul to a male with whom you are not compatible. BUT you have to think and decide. Live your life.
Krishna

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