Thursday, March 31, 2011

[gita-talk] Re: Explanation of certain Hindu Customs of Welcoming Guests

 

Shree Hari Ram Ram
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Why do we welcome people to our homes with a tilak on the forehead from the
little thali with flowers and fruit and a flame burning in a deeya?

In any of our scriptures, is there any explanation of this custom or of the
symbolism of the thali, the fruit/ flowers, the flame and the deeya?

Many thanks!

Prabhu Guptara

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Hari SharaNam,

Respected saadhaks have nicely explained the significance of the following matras of human life told by Taittiriya Upanishad (1/11).

1) MAATRI DEVO BHAV (Respect mother like God).
2) PITRRI DEVO BHAV (Respect father like God)
3) AACHAARYA DEVO BHAV (Respect teacher like God)
4) ATITHI DEVO BHAV (Respect guest like God).

May all be blessed!
Niteesh Dubey

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Atithi in the sanskrit word for Guest. In our culture, the first and foremost
importance is given to knowledge and the givers of knowledge and both should be
respected just like God. Vedas say 'Matru Devo bhava, Pitru Devo Bhava, Acharya
Devo bhava and Athithi Devo bhava' in that order. Mother, Father, Teacher and
Guest should be respected in that order as they are the knowledge givers to us
from the time of birth to death. For example, without Mother teaching us how to
survive we would not be talking today. That is why she is given the utmost
importance for respecting. Even the most cruel mother for outsiders, should be
treated by the children of her as God because she gave them the birth and tricks
to survive.

Having said that, let us talk about the Guest. Atithi in general is an outsider
to the family and his visit brings the knowledge of how others treat their
problems of life and things of their experience that are vital to our knowledge.
We know in the modern days the importance of outside knowledge for our
understanding the world and adopt ourselves. One may say that I get my knowlege
now a days from 'Google.com' . Providing knowledge is not the same as sharing
the experience and the and that is where the Teacher and the Guest play an
important part. Knowledge cannot be created nor destroyed. It is always there
and we attribute that to God. Getting the knowledge is our problem.

About the flowers and Thali etc. it depends on the tradition how to treat others
when the visit us. Light is the most important part of our culture and
traditions because it represents knowledge. We do the same with prayers showing
the lighting a lamp in front of the God asking Him to give us the knowledge and
make us a better person. There will be so many interpretations when it comes to
traditions. It is good to know of the Family traditions from elders in the
family. Of course there is problem there these days as the parents themselves do
not know why they are doing except to say " My mother taught me to do so".

In conclusion, after understanding some of the traditions, I came to believe
that our traditions and culture are deep rooted in transferring the highest
philosophical thoughts in the simplest form so that even an uneducated person
cannot go wrong in carrying the life's daily tribulations by blindly following
them and not fall a pray for adopting wrong means. The gradient of learning is
made positive by these methods and do not need to absolutise them. Once one
understand the significance one can adopt any other means to convey the same.
That is why traditions differ from place to place and from time to time.

Short question and long answer. Sorry I could not make it any simpler and
straight forward.
B.M. Vempaty

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Vasudeva Sarvam
Welcoming with things is from a gross perspective. Being pleased and delighted
within simply on seeing the guest is superior form of welcoming.
So be it,
Humbly
Sadhak
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Dear Sadaks,
Yadhithi Devo Bhava- Means that a visitor (Known or unknown) is to be treated as
God. One man called Butt in Poori Jaganath used to do this. But one day a
Leprosy person arrived at his door step. Butt never saw his body of disgust, but
only followed the principle. He even took the water washed that man feet and
took drops of that water as threetha. His family cursed him and thought he
became mad. But to surprise of all that leprosy stricken man turned to Bagavan
Jaganath.
More like this there are beautiful examples, but to put in short, i remain.
B.Sathyanarayan

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[gita-talk] Availability of Hindu Scriptures in English for New Generation - Your Thoughts!

 

Subject: use of english in hinduisum is must for our new generation
For our new generation, they are mostly using english it is essential that all Hindu Dharma Granth should be available in Good & atractive English language.

Sudhir Maheshwari

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Wednesday, March 30, 2011

[gita-talk] Re: CONFUSED! about BHAGAVAD GITA

 

SHREE HARI RAM RAM

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There are so many books on Bhagavad Gita. I am confused,
as to which is the best book with authority. Some recommend
the Bhgavad Gita by ISKCON, any suggestions?
 
Jay

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Does anyknow know how to get Vinoba Bhave's Gita
translated into English, Hindi or Tamil?
Jamuna Rangachari 
 
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Hari SharaNam,


I would like to share the following steps towards studying Bhagavad Gita when lots of commentaries by many great people are available to us.


0) Right Sentiment:

Have the sentiments of being close to the Lord  which you are  (MAM EVA ANSH â€"

GitaJi- 15/7) while studying Bhagavad Gita to understand his divine message to attain

Him/Essence/Truth. Without this sentiment, the true understanding can not be developed

and adapted irrespective of the intelligence & knowledge of the reader.

YE TVEDABHYA SOOYANTE NAANUTISHTHANTI ME MATAM       |
SARVA GYAAN VIMOODHAASTAAN VIDDHI NASTAAN ACHETASA:  || (3/32).

 

Not only that, Bhagavad Gita contains highly confidential (RAHASYAM -4/3;

RAJGUHYAM â€" 9/2; GUHYAAT GUHYATARAM â€" 18/63; SARVA GUHYATAMAM - 18/64)

divine messages which can not be understood without such sentiment.  The following

sholka also indicates the requirement of such sentiment before trying to understand the

most confidential message (GitaJi-18/65-66) of our master.

 

IDAM TE NAATAPASKAAY NAABHAKTAAYA KADAACHAN |

NA CHASHRUSHAVE VAACHYAM NA CHA MAAM YOABHYASOOYATI || (18/67).

 

1) Pick a book: If you have already chosen a path (e.g. KarmYog, GyaanYog, GyaanYog,

BhaktiYog or any other) & a Guru/Teacher/Ideal person, you can use the book on

Bhagavad Gita by that person or the person who have attained the goal by following the

same path as you have chosen. If not, try to pick the book which has not put much weight 

on one side and ignored the other important sides (e.g. Karma, Dhyan, Gyaan & Bhakti)

discussed in Bhagavad Gita. It will be the best if you can find the book by the person who

lived his life by the principle of Bhagavad Gita.  If you are not able to decide which author is

good, I would suggest pick any popular book and read it very carefully.  If you are fine with

this book and is helping towards your goal, you can make this book as "the book"

for yourself and study it again & again till your conclusion  rhymes with Arjun's conclusion

in GitaJi-18/73.  Now, if you are not satisfied with this  book and you have desire to have 

in-depth understanding of Bhagavad-Gita, follow the 2nd step. I would strongly suggest that

do not to skip the 2nd step and move to 3rd step  and start reading various commentaries.

If you read various commentaries and do not build your own understanding (mentioned in

2nd step), you may be confused/lost in various interpretations and will not be able to

come to any conclusion especially on the  fine points of Bhagavad Gita. In worst case,

just to satisfy yourself you may add/publish one  more commentary on Bhagavad Gita.

I am not against having more & more commentaries but my concern is the author should

not deviate from the essence and just  provide various examples/illustrations in nicer 

ways/words. Commentaries/Explanations are required to channel the divine message to

the audiences in the ways they can understand.



2) Build Your own Understanding: Pick a very simple book which has just provided

the "mool shlokas", "Padakxeda"(broken down the compound Sanskrit words into

smaller words), and translated the smaller words to form the meaning of the shloka. This

is going to be the book which you should master it word-by-word. The advantages of

"padakxeda" are i) not a single word will be out of your attention and ii)it will help you

memorize all 700 shlokas (which is must for the next step). In first round, go through
each verse word by word and make sure the words are translated correctly and are
following the context/flow. You can use a good dictionary if needed. Now, analyse each
shloka and start building your own understanding about each word & shloka in their
contexts. While doing this, keep some time to use audio to listen and then sing the Lord's
song. Listening and singing will help you memorize the shlokas easily and develop love for
the divine song. Do these (i.e. analyse; listen & sing with understanding) few times until
you feel you can sing and explain the whole Gita. Once, this step is matured, go to
the next step (i.e. 3rd step). If you can not find such book of your own choice, you can  buy
it from Gita Press (Book-code#17, in Hindi).


3) Clarify & Expand your understanding with others: In this step, all the words/

shlokas of Bhagavad Gita must be on top of your head.  Now, go through the various

commentaries written from persons of various chosen paths (Gyaan, Bhakti, Karma,

Dhyaan) and verify your understanding. You might differ from various  commentaries

at certain points but do not get perturbed. In this case, do let Lord know that you need help
to resolve the conflicts. You may not get the answer right away but you will definitely
get the correct answer with correct logic & evidences (mostly from Bhagavad Gita itself)
to establish the fact regarding that point. If the commentator is wrong, his points will be
ignored otherwise you will get a chance to correct your understanding. Doing this
(going through various commentaries) will help you develop a clear understanding on
various subtle points mentioned in Bhagavad Gita. For this step, I do want to suggest the
readers (specially Hindi readers) not to  miss the "Saadhak Sanjeevani" and "Gita Darpan"
by Swami Ram SukhadasJi Maharaj.

May all be blessed!
Niteesh Dubey

 
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Shree Hari

|| Ram, Ram ||

Dear Sadhaka,

Have ''GITA PARBACHAN' (in Hindi) by Vinova Bhaveji: Could only find the following information about the Publisher in Varanasi in India:

Bhagvadgita- Talks on Gita by Vinoba Bhave

Sarva Seva Sangh Prakashan and Gram Seva Mandal 

Rajghat, Varanasi

Narendra Margav, Margav Bhushan Press, Varanasi, UP, India

and

 

Published by Sarva Seva Sangh Prakashan , Rajghat, Varanasi, India , 1973. http: //. Contribution #3934. Author: Acharya Vinoba Bhave; Contributor: ValerieT ...

|| Ram Ram ||
 
Humble regards,
Madan Kaura

translated into English, Hindi or Tamil?Jamuna Rangachari"Vinoba Bhave;s Gita Talks is readily available (in Englsih, Hindi) at A. H. Wheeler bokstore on 
Bharatiya Railway Stations. You can also find the English version at most CrossWord stores. 
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Vinoba Bhave's Bhagwad- Geeta  known as Talks on Geeta is available in Hindi,English and Tamil
at Mumbai Sarvodaya Mandal, Shantashram, 299 - Tardeo Rd., Nana Chowk, Mumbai 400007. 
 
Jayantilal Shah
 
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Dear sadaks,
The whole juice of BG is to surrender in this Kaliyug.
Just Namasankreethan is enough says many scripts. Probably the saints of old
age knew the different types of BG will come and confuse people. Just read
Bakthi Marg in BG any book and that is the end.
B.Sathyanarayan

 
narayan narayan ,
 
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CONFUSED! about BHAGAVAD GITA
Confusion IS EXPECTED with any body of knowledge related to THE SELF (Aatmavidya) or THE UNIVERSE (Brahmavidya) since the target for any body of knowledge remain outside the very dominion of the knowledge of any kind! In fact, I would be surprised if anyone is not confused!! Until we insist to understand THE ABSOLUTE, confusion is bound to bind us tighter and blow us apart harder at the same time!!! One has to realize how the very basis of understanding is relative. Any insistence on knowing is nothing but a claim to evaluate the target with whatever is perceived. One's cognition is limited to ONLY the images that are revealed within the sensory mechanisms one is blessed with. Therefore, any effort of extrapolating the images perceived to determine what ought to be THE ABSOLUTE remains highly confusing since the very logic starts defecting its very premise!!! 
No existential activity - action, thought and experience - can ever be able to explain what THAT is. Every existential activity manifests only through a boundary and hence can never evaluate whatever is absolutely bound-less. Therefore, the Upanishads declare that there could be only opinions as to who one IS or what anything IS. 
Naayamaatmaa pravachanena labdhah na medhayaa na bahunaa shrutena |
Therefore, Bhagavadgita or any other treatise WILL DEFINITELY sound confusing to anyone untill one leans on the same to define what THAT IS! Any such attempt ought to snowball into confusions. 
But, ONE IS! All the scriptures univocally agree upon this ... So does any individual would naturally … I AM!! If at all anything is revealed to oneself, it is ONESELF. If at all anyone can attain anything in its completeness, it is ONESELF. If at all anyone truly is and can ever be, it is oneself. Therefore, THE ONE is instantly attained as soon as one drops the perceptory persistence on anything ... THE ONE is instantly revealed all through one's existence ... all through the universe as THE ONE that ever IS.  
Yamaivesha vriNute tena labhyah tasyaisha aatmaa vivriNute tanoogm swaam ||
Therefore, for anyone who IS, everything remains BHAGAVADGITA - THE SONG OF THE ABSOLUTE - as such. All the interpretation of "Voice of God" can be only THAT as nothing else remains … manifestations are just incidental … THE TRUTH remains the same as ever. 
Therefore, my recommendation is NOT TO MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO USE the scriptures to evaluate THE ABSOLUTE or Aatman or Brahman or God. The very attempt ought to and will break a bee-hive of doubts and unleash clouds of confusions. On the other hand, if one could turn the attention to one's own ignorance ... all the scriptures and all their interpretations OUGHT TO cleanse the dirt thereupon ... and, if one turns such an appreciation onto one's existential inertia ... all such appreciation OUGHT TO cleanse the resistance thereof and release the individual thereby from all the bondages ... to be ... to JUST BE ... 
Becoming the Bhagavadgita (Voice of Absolute) is of essence … all efforts to understand and evaluate what it could be or ought to be remain futile and chaotic drawing the very perceiver into its own whirlpool of contradictions as ever. 
Respects.

Naga Narayana

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You do not go after the name, understand the essence, truth "tattva",
In all the message is one and the same. The method of saying / describing may be
different, but the essence is one and the same.
 
IN HINDI
 
aap name pe mat javo siraf tatva ko jano shabhi me baat ek hi higi kahne ka tarika alag ho sakta he tatva nahi.
[ramchandra]
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If you know Sanskrit, Read the Sanskrit and understand and ask
Krishna to give you knowledge to understand Him.
 
Balaji
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I have over 30 different versions of Gita. The one I like best
 and has been using to teach my Gita Class at the Bharatiya 
Temple of Lansing is "Bhagavad Gita" by (late) Swami 
Chidbhavananda (Sanskrit to English version). My Tamil friends
 tell me that the Sanskrit to Tamil version by him is also 
excellent. He gives the Sanskrit verse in Devnagari, accurate 
English and Hindi transliterations with diacritical marks, 
word for word translation from Sanskrit to English, an accurate
 summary of the sloka, and excellent English commentary on the
 verse. The book is available from Ramakrishna Mission in 
Mylapore Madras. According to me, this is about the most 
accurate English translation for Gita verses I have seen 
among the different editions. 

If you are not that much interested in learning the verses or
 even word for word translation, I recommend two other excellent
 English translations of Gita with nice commentaries. One is 
Bhagavadgita (three volumes) by Swami Ranganathananda 
(past Presesident of the Ramakrishna Mission). He was a great
 internationally renowned scholar of Bhagavadgita and upanishads
 and gives wonderful commentary on Gita verses (though rather 
wordy at times). Perhaps the best commentary ion Gita verses 
for practical and enlightened living suited to the current 
societal conditions is :"Bhagavad Gita for Daily Living" 
(three volumes) by (late) Eknath Easwaran of the Blue Mountain
 Press. He wrote other books which are all written in beautiful
 smooth flowing English prose. He has a nice sense of humour 
which also makes the reading more interesting. He was a professor
 of English and this is clearly apparent when you read his books.
 For a person who is new to Bhagavadgita, Easwaran's book may be
 an excellent start. 

Bhgavad Gita commentary by Swami Chinmayananda and a three
volume commentary by late Professor Rangacharya are also very 
good and worth reading if one has the time and interest. As 
one of the persons commented in this blog, Gita commentary by 
Swami Ramsukhdasji is also very good. 

Sorry for the long response but I went through similar difficulties
 in finding good commentaries on Gita when I first started my study of this most wonderful and universally applicable and admired scripture that originated from India.  

C. Adinarayana Reddy

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Dear sadaks,
The whole juice of BG is to surrender in this Kaliyug.
Just Namasankreethan is enough says many scripts. Probably 
the saints of old age knew the different types of BG will 
come and confuse people. Just read Bakthi Marg in BG any book 
and that is the end.
B.Sathyanarayan
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may be i have not understood the problem cited in this .edition.
Gita is the vani of Shri krishna in which He removes the diemma
ofArjuna to fight the battle of M ahabharat agaist Kaurvas in the name
of dharm  so  yatra yogeshwara krishna yatra partho dhanurdharah
,tatra shri vijayo bhutirdhruva neetirmati marm.if one follows the
bhakti marg then there should not be any confusion  .G ita isthe
ultimate  in all the philosophies of life if we follow karm marg it
gives direction in that also if we follow bhakti marg then there
should be no dilemmas or confusions  this is my humble submission .
jai shri kerishna

Chaman Nigam

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SOORY TO TELL YOU, NO BODY CAN LEARN FROM THE BEST BOOK AVAILABLE.

WE NEED LOVE TO KRISHNA FIRST, THEN GURU KRIPA,  THEN KRISHNA WILL HIMSELF COME
IN US TO TEACH IT WHAT THEY MEAN BY THE WORDS HE HAS SPOKEN TO ARJUN.

IN NUT SHELL, WE HAVE TO BECOME HIS FRIEND LIKE ARJUN, TO UNDERSTAND IT.
BECAUSE THIS IS A DIALOGUE BETWEEN FRIENDS,  AND FRINDS CAN UNDERSTAND THE REAL
MEANING ALSO, JUST BY A SIGN OF EYE.

THIS I AM SAYING ON THE BASIS OF MY EXPERIENCE, I WAS READING THIS THROUGH A
TEACHER FROM LAST 15 YEARS, BUT NOW WHEN I DEVELOPED LOVE WITH KRISHNA, I HAVE
UNDERSTOOD IT BETTER THEN EVER.

HARI BOL

ASHOK GUPTA FROM DELHI
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The very purpose is to  make others confused, otherwise it is really difficult to fool the people. in the name of Dharma.

Because Nature never defines a Dharma nor a Adarma. It is the creation of intelligent people
for ruling over others by fooling them
Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri

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I have read few Gitas. 
The interpretations or explanation of Verses 7/8 of 4th Chapter ,14 of 5th Chapter ,22 of 13th chapter and 61/62 of 18 chapter is very important for understanding which Gita is suitable for you.
I have found Yatharth Geeta most suitable for me.It is downloadable free of cost from site in book and audio lecture format.
regards
Ashok Jain
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FOR FREE RESOURCES AND ONE OF THE BEST COMMENTARIES ON THE 
GITA, 
WE SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING - 
 
THE BHAGAVAD GITA - SADHAK SANJIVANI 
 
It is online in both HINDI and ENGLISH
For Sadhaks in USA, you may purchase it or other Gita Press 
books at: 
http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.net/market.html 
 
If you are a beginner, it is highly recommended, to read a 
very simple, conversational style gita that you can read and 
listen to the GITA MADHURYA
 
TO READ click on - GITA MADHURYA eBook 
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Dear jay, Namaste! We all have a different mindset, and learning methods so I have put in some links and will explain: The first link will get you sadhaksanjivani, e book full screen, my preferred display. The second will get you swamiramsukhdasji site with the complete shebang very good site, but maybe one can get full screen on the e books there I do not know how. The third is Bhagavad Gita Golden scales, a little old fashioned, and maybe not the best translation, but you can make a text file from it for a rapid location and summery. Also useful for cut and paste when writing commentaries to this beloved forum The fourth site is delight, it has as a rule four commentaries, it is scholarly and a delight to the eye, can be used in tandem with sadhaksanjivani, as a cross reference to help clarify a point http://www.sadhaksanjivani.com/Mybook1.html http://www.swamiramsukhdasji.net/ http://oaks.nvg.org/bhagavad-gita.html http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/intro.html These are all on the net of course, there is another noble version I have, Simadbhagavadgita Tattavivecani by Jayadayal Goyandaka, I have been told by a knowledgeable sadhak, that Swamiji had a high regard for it. And Sadhaksanjivany Oh yes I have a little pocket version I keep in my car, for those moments... these three items are from Gita Press. So enjoy and God Bless You! Om ... Shanti ... Mike

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Best is that which one can make the Self understand.
That which is explained by others can be great, but it
can never be the best. Can something that is tasted by
another be relished / experienced by us?
If you yourself make an effort to understand then Gitaji
will shower Her grace. You may have heard the saying that-
It is only by dying that on can attain the heavens.
 
HINDI
Best vah hotaa hai jo svayanko samajhmen aataa hai.
doosarekaa samajhaa huaa yaa samajhaayaa huaa Better
to ho sakataa hai parantu Best kabhee naheen.
kyaa doosareke dvaaraa chaakhaa gayaa svaad svayanke
anubhavamen aataa hai?
aap svayam samajhanekaa prayaas karenge to hee
Geetaajeekee kripaa hogee. apane maranese hee svarg
milataa hai - kahaavat sunee hogee.
astu.
savinay,
saadhaka.
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read any one or all the gita's but unless you be befriend with
krishna, we will not understand a single word.

because gita is told to a friend, unless you are also friend..
as between friends they even understand, the look, stances,
even a small smile, because they are on the same wave length.  

so as i have been told by some mahatamas, this being near to
krishna or / and radha is the pre-requisite to understand the
gita jee.

ashok gupta
 
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Namaskaar
 
I humbly endorse Sadhaka Sanjivani - as one of the best - especially for the sadhaka and seva oriented;
but it also goes into relevant details with much notes to special words and concepts.
The organisation of the text and is also helpful and it is easy to carry- two pocket sized volumes.
The paper is high quality and the cover pliant so less possible damage to the book. Not expensive.
 
 
raviji 
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By the grace of God, for us the best way we found was to start
a Study group for those interested in BhagvadGita and let them
bring their favourate copy, participate and interact in a nice
way, share the wisdom regularly at least 1 hour a week in a
local temple or someone's house. 
For example, Wellingborough Temple has a regular BG group
runnig for nearly 20 years and what a joy it is in sharing
this knowledge plus your own experiences to make it relevant
for today! 
Best wishes in your search for Truth....Shri Krishna will
guide you and your group once you take the first step...and
that's His promise we have witnessed locally...let Him get
rid of your confusion through such a group as He did for Arjun
with His wisdom....
Dr BalMukund Bhala, Wellingborough, UK. 
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thanks for giving all the information at one place 
jai shri krishnaChaman Nigam
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Dear Sadhak,
All are wonderful ............but
I would suggest first just read the translation from Sanskrit to Hindi or English.
Then contemplate on each shloka. Brainstorm, dive deep, and you will find the meaning.
with Love,
a sadhika
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By restricting yourself to reading a single best Gita translation, you would be missing the opportunity of clearing your confusion. I suggest the following method, though a little tedious but simple and easy for one who has a computer and internet access:
1. Download any one of the translations first and save it to your computer.
2. Remove all interpretations and just keep the versewise translations.
3. Copy versewise translation from another source and paste versewise in the saved file so that you have versewise two translations of each verse one after another. Save this file again.
4. Now repeat the same as in 3 so that you have versewise three translations one after aother for each verse. Save this file.
5. This is the first version of your own Gita. Read each verse with three translations and see if you do not find any material difference, keep one of the translation for each verse that you like most. In case of verses, where three translations appear conflicting or contradictory, reflect over the three translations and make a translation of your own. This translations will be the one that you understand yourself.
6. Save the file after deleting and modifying translations under each verse after you have completed step 5. This is the second version of your own Gita with which you will try to better your understanding of Gita.
7. Study each version of your Gita now and see where you have problem in understanding. For each such verse, now go to the three documents from which you had earlier downloaded the translation in steps 1, 3 and 4. This time copy the ionterpretations from these documents for each of the verse that you have problem in understanding and paste them in your second version of Gita in the computer under each verse. Reflect on the translation and interpret again for those problem vesrse. Then, write your own interpretation. Then save the file. This will be your own Gita's third version. This is your final working draft.
8. Just go on reading your working draft and reflect. For each verse do this two/ three times on different days.
9. Then one day, spend long hours at a stretch to choose one of the four interpretation (three others and your own interpretations) as the base and modify it as you feel. The modified interpretations of your own are to be kept and all other interpretations are to be deleted. Then save the file again. This will be your final Gita.
10. Read your own final Gita again and again. See if you find any inconsistency among verses at different places in terms of translation or interpretation.  Whereever you find inconsistency, you reflect again on those and modify if necessary the translation / interpretation of each verse.
11. Read this Revised Final version again and again. Then make a summary of each Chapter with the main learning you have in your own laguage. Save the file of translations and interpretations along with the Chapterwise summaries. This is your own Gita with summaries.
12. Now read your own Gita with summaries and write a brief summary of the summaries all chapters in one or two pages. This two page summarry that you finally compose is what you think of practising in life. Redad this summarry everday and check the progress on your practising the summary in your life.
 
The whole process may take 24 to 36 months. But at the end there would be very little confusion in your mind as to what is Gita all about and how to make Gita part of your system and life.
 
Remember, if so many persons can translate and interpret Gita you can do that also. You have an advanatage because at least three persons have given you their translations and interpretations to help you do your meditation on Gita. And, remember God is within you to help you to arrive at your own Gita principles and practices for life. Do not worry about authenticity of your own Gita. There is of knowing what Krishna actually said to Arjuna and what he meant - there is no video or audio taped version of Lord's converstation. Al his verse are in the atmosphere and you have to pick them up in your antena.
Basudeb Sen
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Dear Sadhakas,
Hare Krishna.
This is in response to a question from a Sadhaka.
" Bhagavad Gita As It Is. "
By His Divine Grace A C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is an excellent One to study the Holy Book.
Thank You.
Prasad.A.Iragavarapu, M.D
 
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Srimad bhagavadgita - TATTVAVIVECHANI in English is also
a very good commentary, available at Gita Press.
A Sadhak
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One senior member from an Ashram in Rishikesh had recommended two commentaries on Gita as under:

(a) For spiritual insight: Gita the Mother; by Sant Dnyashwar Maharaj.Translated into English by Manu Subedar.Published by Kalyani Publishers. It is now priced at Rs 75.00 per copy.

(b) For Intellectual Insight: Essays on Gita by Shri Aurobindo. This book is commonly available in book stores or Aurobindo Ashram.

Regards,

Satish Oberoi
 
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in my view , commentary of swami akhandananda jee maharaj of vrindavan is the best.
ashok gupta
 
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I have read few Gitas.
The interpretations or explanation of Verses 7/8 of 4th Chapter ,14 of 5th Chapter ,22 of 13th chapter and 61/62 of 18 chapter is very important for understanding which Gita is suitable for you.
I have found Yatharth Geeta most suitable for me.It is downloadable free of cost from site in book and audio lecture format.
regards
Ashok Jain
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If you are looking only in sanskrit and English, with expalanation of each Sanskrit word, Swami Dayananda's
translation is very good.

 

Durgesh Mankikar,MD

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GITA RAHASYA BY TILAK IS THE BEST according to me.

rammohan varier

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All are same.Gita contents are the same.
Thanks
jayakumar sankaralayam

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Dear Sadhak_insight,
    Doesn't the very fact that there are so many commentaries on the Gita...strongly suggest that your insistence on the commentary Sadhak Sanjivani is the best among all of them...
    Have you personally read the commentaries by C.Rajagopalachari,or by other famous intellectuals of India like Gopal Krishna Ranade,Lokmanya Tilak,Dr.S.Radhakrishnan  et al...?
    If so, kindly comment on their interpretations...and kindly enlighten us all as to why Sadhak Sanjivani is better...and let us then decide...why are you 'thrusting' this book on all of us...
    A fair comparison would be eminently fair...it will also indicate the depth of the comparer's grasp/understanding of the Gita's message...
    With best wishes,
         Yogesh Lajmi.
         GOD LUCK

 

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Shree Hari Ram Ram

Yogeshji, Please read carefully, we have said "one of the best".

Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram

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Other Gita Related Discussion from previous Sadhaka and 
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Met
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-   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sadhaka/message/2729
-   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sadhaka/message/2730
-   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sadhaka/message/2731
Method of Learning Gita Verses

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sadhaka/message/2333
Ways to Remember the Gita Verses

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sadhaka/message/1425
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3127
What is Geeta? What is the Meaning of Geeta?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3128
Who Can Follow the Gita Principles?
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/2928
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3098
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3102
Gita Essence / Excerpts / Insights
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3114
My Experience with Gita
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3115
GITAJI CHANGED MY LIFE / MY EXPERIENCE WITH GITA
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3119
Few Very Selected Gita Shlokas for Gita Jayanti day Compilation
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gita-talk/message/3122
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