Saturday, February 26, 2011

[gita-talk] Re: Are we Giving Importance to what we know to be TRUE? Your Insights Please !


Shree Hari Ram Ram

In recent "SADHAKA DAILY MESSAGES" Swamiji has addressed giving importance to what we know to be TRUE....
Are we utilizing what we know to be true? Have we understood the term
"perishable" (naashvaan). Do we know ourselves as imperishable? Do we know that the imperishable cannot be gratified by the perishable?
Are we getting trapped? Are we being stupid? Are we cheating ourselves? Do we know / understand that it is only on realizing the Eternal, Imperishable Paramatma that we will be satisfied?

Your INSIGHTS please !!!
Gita Talk Moderators, Ram Ram


Dear Sadhakas, it is a great invitation to share our insights into what Moderators and Nagaji have shred with us from Swamiji's Treasure!
We need to clearly see that anything known or unknown, including body-mind-sense complex given to us which we call "I", is perceived by senses and subsequently conceived by mind with a name. All such conceived(thought-of) objects of this world are in mind which functions in time-space fabric only, and hence are perishable in time! Check this out by contemplating upon it.
Now, That which conceives objects through body-mind-senses cannot ITSELF be conceived as another object of this world, and hence is free of time-space fabric and therefore, is necessarily Imperishable! Even as IT cannot be known as another object, it is our experience that IT knows through us and therefore, IT IS, and hence is ITS own proof, being Self-evident Existence we feel we ARE!
Knowing this Truth as our true nature, the Real "I" that I am, is crown Jewel of discrimination (Vivek Chudamani)!
So, Swamiji is asking us to stand as our true Self, the only Truth of perishable World! This will free us from all attachment to "me" and its created world!
Know also that perishable objects exist only on Imperishable Existence, just as waves on ocean, snake on rope, jewelries on Gold!
It is IMPERISHABLE which is GOD, appearing as forms of perishable objects!
And ... when we understand this by contemplating on it, we say "Vasudev Sarvam"!
Pratap Bhatt

Dear Sadaks,
We know we are perishable, and we know that we not the body, but we are Aham Bhramasmi, we know we are trapped, we know we are stupid and cheating ourselves, and we know we want to escape from these. But then why we are not getting out of Maya. Strictly speaking 90% of us are aware. But what prevents us from raising to higher level? Only very very few realized the importance. We know Geetha and Sri Krishna and Swamiji and his teachings. But we cannot put in practice- Why? Judge, Police, Ministers, Govt Servants know that taking bribe is crime. Person to person cheating we know that we accumulate sins. But we do them without fear- Why? Sadaks find out this obstacle then it is easy to liberate.


What 'this specfic-named' person referred to by mistake as I do is what
(this) I am destined to do because of the properties/ Gunas imparted to this
particular stula-suksma-karan body mistakenlt referred to as I. This I will
cheat itself and ask why, will know that it is perishable within a very
short period of time and yet act as if that short period is infinite time,
This I is designed to act stupid, trapped in illusion even if this I comes
to know the Truth. All this is but natural and not amazing. That is one
Truth that this I also knows and need not bother. The real Truth is that
there is the Other I which is permanent, ceaseless, unperturbed by what the
perishable I's do and do not do. It is that Other I that this I is destined
to vanish in. Can the existence this other I be experienced even as this
perishable I functions in its own guna and illusion led existence. That is
the only important issue: going beyond the darkness of the perishable I to
enjoy the existence of the ceaseless I. Will this happen!
Basudeb Sen


To feel satisfied, seek satisfaction that any possession, relationship,

situation, idea is good, important, sacred, moral, right, beneficial and so

on apart from its use, is the psychological comfort to which the mind

Then is there nothing as good?

Everything has usage value and that is the only goodness of it.

Y V Chawla

Give Importance to what you Know to be True

Again, a wonderful teaching (rather a whip) from Swamiji with a precision of
"Whatever circumstances one has been placed in, consider those circumstances and
situations as best of all and utilize it well, then you will be benefited … Your
knowledge is not less, however, what you know you are not utilizing it well … If
you utilize this knowledge properly, then this knowledge that you have is
adequate for your benefit ... proper utilization of this knowledge is that, do
not get trapped in the circumstances that have presented themselves to you -
neither become elated or dejected in them."

1. There are two terms in Sanskrit - Rita and Satya. One means perceived truth
and the other the Absolute Truth. How anyone who cannot acknowledge perceived
truth ever can appreciate the Absolute Truth?
2. An individual IS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE'S HAPPINESS … also the individual
is the only one who is authorised to change one's state of presence - happy or
3. Finally, one does not need anything other than oneself to make oneself happy.
If anything else is used to "bring" happiness in one's life, the thing that
apparently brought the pleasure is sure to perish … and so is the pleasure it
brought along.

The best is Swamiji's response to the questioner's apparent quest for more
knowledge - "Whatever you have knowledge about, are you utilizing that knowledge
properly?" What a wonderful whip any Saadhak need to savor all the time!!!
Quoting Swamiji from other texts, "Baavar bed bidush baavariyaa poti pustak
pandhaa …". Studies through even milleniums cannot bring the awareness, if we
are not willing to utilize the know how we are graced with as of now …

We often bring the so-called "nobility" and even "divinity" to escape from our
fundamental responsibility of being happy succumbing to our eternal hesitance to
exercize the only authority we ever have - to be happy.


Naga Narayana.


|| Shree Hari ||
Ram Ram

Give Importance to what you Know to be True

There is one very great point. Have mercy on me and please pay attention.
Whatever circumstances one has been placed in, consider those circumstances and
situations as best of all and utilize it well, then you will be benefited.
Whatever things you have received, you don't need any more things than that.
However much knowledge you have, you don't need to know any more than that. The
amount of strength that you have, you don't need any more than that. Paramatma
(God) can be realized simply by putting to proper use the strength, the
intellect, the abilities, the circumstances etc. that you have. This is the
absolute Truth and is the principle.

Your knowledge is not less, however, what you know you are not utilizing it
well. You do not give it importance - that is your limitation. The
circumstances that have been presented in front of you, will not remain like
this forever. This knowledge is not something that you know only slightly, you
know this completely and entirely. If you utilize this knowledge properly, then
this knowledge that you have is adequate for your benefit. It is not even
slightly deficient. The proper utilization of this knowledge is that, do not
get trapped in the circumstances that have presented themselves to you. Neither
become elated or dejected in them.

Questioner: We know this point, however the extent we desire to know, that
much knowledge we do not have.

Swamiji: Whatever you have knowledge about, are you utilizing that knowledge
properly? Those things that you know to be perishable, do you have desire to
attain it or not?

Questioner: Yes we do.

Swamiji: Then where have you understood the term "perishable"? In reality, if
you truly understood "perishable", then you would not desire to attain it. What
is the gain in attaining the perishable? Just like a wealthy man has money.
Without the money he would not be called wealthy, similarly this world has only
perishables and perishing things. That which is perishable how can it benefit
us, how can it be for our welfare?

You your "self" are not perishable, rather the body is perishable. That which
you have received is going to perish, but you the "self" will not perish.
Things were not there initially and will not be there later on. Rather even in
the present it is continuously moving towards destruction. You were there
initially and will remain even after. Your existence will remain at all times.
A question was put forth to me, that in the present how to gain knowledge of our
existence in the future? The answer to that is, that you are afraid to do bad
things and you are pleased when you do good deeds; because you are of the
sentiment that by doing evil deeds you will later on suffer, and by doing good
deeds, you will gain happiness in the future. This is proof that you have
accepted your existence in the future. If we do not accept our existence in the
future, then who will go to heaven? Who will go to hell? You will be
reincarnated? Who will be liberated? On attaining salvation, you will be
blissful or will the world be joyful? The point is that you will remain, and
the body and other things will not.

If you think carefully how can that which is eternal and imperishable attain
happiness from perishable? By saying that something is perishable it means, it
is nothing but destructible, besides being destructible and perishable, it has

"Ant tohi tajainge paamar tu ne tajai ab hi te."

That thing which is going to perish, utilize it but do not trust it. Do not
depend on it as your support, having the notion that this thing will gratify me,
that it will lead to my prosperity etc. Think deeply about this - By getting
those things that are currently not with you, how will you be gratified? How
will you prosper? That which is not there right now, will also not remain later
on in the future. It will break away, therefore how will it make you happy?
Who knows with certainty whether you get it or not? And even if you get it, then
too it will not remain, because that which is perishable and destructible will

The body etc. is perishable - this you know, but you do not believe it. In
other words, you do not give importance to that which you know to be true. If
you gave importance to what you know, then you would not depend on perishables.
You would not have any expectation or hope from these perishables. You would
not become happy on getting them or meeting them. You would not be saddened by
not getting or meeting them. You would not desire for them to remain forever
and forever. You would not worry about them perishing. On not attaining the
situations that you desire, you become unhappy. Then this unhappiness is
nothing but stupidity. It is only stupidity. To want to hold on to those
things and situations that will not remain, and later being saddened by their
departure - what else is all this besides stupidity? If some calamity comes to
us, some sorrow comes to us, than we think how will this go away? But in
reality, it is going away. Whether it is favorable situations or unfavorable
ones, they will not remain. That which comes, is of the nature to go away.

Sarve kshayaantaa nichayaah patanaantaah samuchryaah

sanyogaa viprayogontaa marayaantam cha jeevitam (Valmiki 2/105/16)

The end of all hoarding is utter annihilation. The end of all worldly
successes is a fall. The end of coming together is parting ways. The end of
life is death.

That which is going to part, how can one gain happiness on meeting it? What is
there to be unhappy by it's going away. Neither happiness remains, nor sorrow
remains. Only the self remains. If the one that remains (Self), becomes one
that which comes and goes, one that is happy and sad, then it is only it's own

It is only on attaining That which never perishes, and That which is present
right now, Paramatma, one will gain the kind of happiness that remains forever.
Besides Paramatma if you become satisfied with anything else, whether it is
respect, honor, fame, relaxation, money, family, prosperity etc., you will be

(to be continued)

From book in hindi "Acche Bano" and english "Be Good" by Swami Ramsukhdasji

Same message is available in HINDI - PLEASE VISIT:
Titled "Acche Bano" on 23nd February, 2011.

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