Tuesday, June 13, 2017

[gita-talk] Spiritual Practice takes place by the 'Self' then are prayer, divine name recitation, and austerities etc not spiritual practices ?

 

According to Drops of Nectar -   No.  747,  spiritual practices take place by the 'Self'  (swayam),  not by the mind, intellect, senses,  not by reading the scriptures.   I would like to understand that prayers,  rituals,  divine Name recitation,  austerities- fasting,  meditation,   reading holy text   etc. and all that is done, is all done through the mind, intellect, senses, as the Gita says regarding the 'Self'  (swayam)  in Gita 13:31  '  Na Karoti,  Na Lipyate'.   (the self is neither a doer,  nor is it  tainted).   Then are prayers,  rituals,  divine Name recitation,  austerities- fasting,  meditation,   reading holy text etc.  not spiritual practices ?   

Would like to understand.  

Humbly 

Sadhak  

  • अमृत बिंदु 747 के अनुसार साधन स्वयंसे होता है, मन-बुद्धि-इन्द्रियोंसे नहीं। 
    समझना यह है कि पूजा-पाठ, नाम-जप, व्रत-उपवास, ध्यान-दर्शन, ग्रन्थ-पाठ 
    आदि जो भी किये जाते हैं वे सब के सब मन-बुद्धि-इन्द्रियोंसे ही किये जाते हैं,
    क्योंकि स्वयं के बारेमें गीता (13:31) ''न करोति न लिप्यते'' कहती है। 
    तब पूजा-पाठ, नाम-जप, व्रत-उपवास, ध्यान-दर्शन, ग्रन्थ-पाठ आदि साधन नहीं?
    समझाइयेगा। 
    सविनय,
    साधक 

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[gita-talk] नामजप (Naam Japa - Divine Name Repetition)

 




नामजप संबंधी एक (व्यक्तिगत) जिज्ञासा है। 
जिस समय बिना मुँह खोले, बिना जिह्वा हिलाये अंदर नाम (जप होता) सुनाई देता है तब यह अनुभव नहीं होता कि नामजप (मेरे द्वारा) किया जा रहा है (ऐसा बहुधा तब होता है जब प्रात: अकेले टहलने जाते हैं), वह नामजप किसके द्वारा होता रहता है?
समझाइयेगा। 
सविनय,
साधक 


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  • साधकजी महाराज -

    स्वभावके द्वारा !!!!

    जैसे मोटर बन्द करने पर भी थोड़ी देर बिना इंजन चले भी वेग से चलती रहती है , उसी प्रकार मन भी अंक मशीन है - यह स्वभाव वश चलता रहता है ! जैसे सिगरेट पीने वाला बिना ध्यान दिये, बिना सोचे मशीनकी भाँति सिगरेट का पैकेट खोलकर, जलाकर पीने लग जाता है , सोचता / करता कुछ और ही रहता है, तो यह कैसे होता है ? स्वभाव ( आदत) से !!!

    राम राम करते रहो मित्र - ज़्यादा दिमाग़ लगाओ मत !!!

    जय श्री कृष्णा

    व्यास एन बी

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  • उत्तर Scientific Inquiry: Consciousness repeats thoughts, sounds and images of highest emotional potency relevant to circumstances. That leads to another question, "who runs this consciousness? And who keeps this emotional registry? etc." Science, the reasoning, can never reach its end on its own ... because, it does not have an origin of its own!
    Spiritual Awareness: Everything runs on its own for its own sake. So is this chanting in silence as well as the wondering on the same aloud! Tagging oneself to anything witnessed is one's own choice and one's own claim. 
    में प्रयुक्त ​
    शब्दों 
    Consciousness
    ​,
    emotional potency
    ​,
    emotional registry
    ​,
    Science
    ​, 
    Spiritual Awareness
    ​​
    का
    ​पूछे गये प्रश्नके संदर्भमें ​
    हिंदी अनुवाद क्या है? 
    ​शब्द 
    Everything​ में क्या पृथ्वी, जल, अग्नि, वायु और आकाश तथा मन, बुद्धि और अहंकार सम्मिलित समझें जायँ? 
    सविनय,
    साधक


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पूछा गया प्रश्न अभी भी अनुत्तरित है। 
जिस समय बिना मुँह खोले, बिना जिह्वा हिलाये अंदर नाम (जप होता) सुनाई देता है तब यह अनुभव नहीं होता कि नामजप (मेरे द्वारा) किया जा रहा है (ऐसा बहुधा तब होता है जब प्रात: अकेले टहलने जाते हैं), वह नामजप किसके द्वारा होता रहता है?
सविनय,
साधक 


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When name repeats in silence who conducts such repetition?

Scientific Inquiry: Consciousness repeats thoughts, sounds and images of highest emotional potency relevant to circumstances. That leads to another question, "who runs this consciousness? And who keeps this emotional registry? etc." Science, the reasoning, can never reach its end on its own ... because, it does not have an origin of its own!

Spiritual Awareness: Everything runs on its own for its own sake. So is this chanting in silence as well as the wondering on the same aloud! Tagging oneself to anything witnessed is one's own choice and one's own claim. 

Respects.
Naga Narayana.

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नाम जप में रूचि कैसे हो?   


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Dear Sadhakas,
Hare Krishna. 
This is in response to a question from a fellow Sadhaka regarding " Naam japa". Naam Japa , means chanting of the  Holy Names of the Lord. 
If you do Naam japa alone it is called meditation or chanting. If it is done with a large group of people, it is Called Sankirtana Yajna. 

Lord Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita,
" Yajnanam japa yagnosmi."
       Gitaji (10, 25)
Which means,
' Of the Yajnas, I am the chanting of the Holy Names.'

In Bruhannaradiya Purana, it is mentioned as follows,
" Harer Naama Harer Naama Harernamaiva hi kevakam,
Kalau nasti Eva nasti Eva nasti Eva gatir Anya tha."
Which means, 
' In this Kali Yuga , the chanting of the Holy Names is the only way for liberation. There is no other way. '

Chanting of the Holy Names is sweet, melodious, spiritually uplifting and most practical. 
Let us enjoy the eternal bliss by this process. 
Thank you.
Hare Krishna. 

Prasad Achyuta Iragavarapu,MD

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Nam jap kaise Karen ..mala kaise karna chahiye.

I have the ruchi but do not know the process so I do malas ..
I try to do japa through mala  but I do different malas  gayatri mantra ..on namo bhagvate vasudeve ..I'm ham ganpati namah. Om sai nath namah ..and on trayambakam poora shlok   ..that is 5 malas every day is it right .

Please guide me 

chamannigam

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[gita-talk] How to feel all the time that I am God's and Everything I am doing is God's work ?

 






How to do?  I am the Lords.   Everything i do is Gods work? this 
cannot be just intellectual 

How to feel this all of the time? 

Sophia

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  • Hari Om

    How to feel all the time ? Where is need for the same ? Do you remember all the time that you are female ? Or you are bachelor or married ? "Feeling all the time" is not crucial, "to become of Paramatma" is crucial. JUST AS: Upon marriage, a female becomes of her hubby, thereafter, in dream also she sees herself only as married SIMILARLY: Become of Paramatma. This is achieved by "acceptance" ! Acceptance is by SELF , not by mind/intellect. 

    Jai Shree Krishna

    Vyas N B


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How to feel all the time that I am God's and Everything I am doing is God's work ?

By accepting God!

How to accept God?

By realizing that only God IS!!

How to realize that?

By God's Grace!!!

PS: Whether you acknowledge or not, the only reality is the divine presence everywhere as IS. Why this personal insistence to acknowledge it all the time?! Probably, you may want to drop this insistence and see J.

Respects.
Naga Narayana.

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Truly, these FIVE GOLDEN PRINCIPLES'   are not the subject of the intellect.   It is the subject of acceptance by the 'SELF'.  Where one truly accepts by the 'Self', the world will get done.   You may have the pride of acceptance by the intellect,  but the work will not be done, for who the FIVE GOLDEN PRINCIPLES are laid out.  

The day the intellect is separated from the 'Self'  that day this will be understood.  
In fact, one is to experience through the self, that the 'self' is separate from all the three bodies (gross, subtle and causal bodies).  
I am God's and only God is my very own,  and the moment of separating the three bodies from the 'Self' (swayam), on its own all work will get done,  or else,  where will the 'self' go?  eventually where can it go ?   

Humbly 

Sadhak

सचमुच यह 'पंचामृत' बुद्धिका विषय नहीं है। यह विशुद्ध मान्यताका (स्वयंसे माननेका) विषय है। जहाँ सचमुच (स्वयंसे) माना कि 'काम' हुआ। बुद्धिसे माननेका 'अभिमान' भले ही कर लें, 'वह काम' नहीं होगा जिसके लिये 'पंचामृत' बताया गया है। 
जिस दिन बुद्धिको 'स्वयं'से अलग कर लेंगे उस दिन यह समझ लेंगे। 
वास्तवमें स्वयंके द्वारा स्वयंको तीनों शरीरोंसे अलग 'अनुभव' करना है। 
मैं भगवान् का हूँ और भगवान् ही मेरे अपने हैं, तीनों शरीरोंको 'स्वयं'से अलग अनुभव करते ही स्वत:'सारा काम' हो जायगा, नहीं तो 'स्वयं' कहा जानेवाला आखिर जायगा कहाँ? 
सविनय,
साधक  

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ATMAN,

IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE ENTIRE WORLD/UNIVERSE BELONGS TO GOD THEN WHATEVER YOU 

ARE DOING, IS DOING FOR GOD ONLY. EVERY TIME THE GOD RESPONDS IN THE SHAPE OF 

RESULTS OF YOUR DEEDS.


vijay monga

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Lack of gyan ( knowledge on SAT). That is why we all are in dark and in confusion. If you disown anger, desire, lobam, Madam - ego, macharyiyam, you will get gyan. Your mind tells you that when these appears. Control them. ..... edited...
B.Sathyanarayan


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